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Old 10-13-2006, 01:20 AM   #1
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Default Mark Warner no longer running for president
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:43 AM   #2
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One less DLCer to worry about.
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:19 AM   #3
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John Warner isn't running for re-election, so Mark has a guaranteed Senate seat in '08. Since he's out of a job right now, there's practically no incentive to go after the big one in a crowded field. 'Specially if all these Obama '08 rumors bear out... He's also setting himself up to be everyone's first Veep pick.
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:27 AM   #4
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Basically, Warner's problem is that his constituency is split between Edwards and Richardson, and he's out of oxygen between the two. Theoretically, Bayh also takes away some of Warner's constituency, but I'm betting that he'll have the same problem - getting crowded out by Edwards and Richardson, gaining little traction. 'Course, if the 800 pould gorilla weren't in the field, Warner might be viable; but she is, and therefore he isn't.
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:40 AM   #5
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Okay...time for a serious movement to draft Ed Rendell.
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:13 AM   #6
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Originally posted by Ramo
I thought he was pretty anti-labor as Mayor of Phillyr... Don't know; I'll check that out. But given the nature of unions in Philly, I could see that not necessarily being a problem.

Philly was in much better shape after Rendell left office; PA has improved under his governorship. So he's a proven effective leader of a large battleground state with regular-guy charisma; plus, he's untainted by Washingtonian compromises with the Bushies. The Dems could do a lot worse, and could hardly do better.
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:34 AM   #7
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Originally posted by Ramo
John Warner isn't running for re-election, so Mark has a guaranteed Senate seat in '08. Since he's out of a job right now, there's practically no incentive to go after the big one in a crowded field. 'Specially if all these Obama '08 rumors bear out... He's also setting himself up to be everyone's first Veep pick. You live in a fantasy world if you think a black man or even a half black man is going to get nominated for President by a party which is desperate to pick up southern states.
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:58 AM   #8
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There is also the issue that he is inexperienced, doesn't have the financing & fund raising machine which a big campaign would require, and that he is a Senator who therefor voted and revoted on virually every issue and thus can easily be painted as a flip flopper. It's best to get someone like a governor who has never been in Congress.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:23 AM   #9
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Originally posted by Oerdin
It seems Hillary will be the nominee then. That's a pity since she sucks as a candidate and carries to much baggage. She won't get the nomination, the base hates her too much.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:39 AM   #10
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There is also the issue that he is inexperienced, doesn't have the financing & fund raising machine which a big campaign would require, and that he is a Senator who therefor voted and revoted on virually every issue and thus can easily be painted as a flip flopper. It's best to get someone like a governor who has never been in Congress.

The biggest problem is that he's inexperienced. But it's precisely this lack of experience in Congress - that he has only been in the Senate for two years so doesn't have problems wrt his voting record. And OTOH, he can speak articulately about any number of issues. And he's the biggest fund-raising draw in the party (perhaps second only to Bill), so will not have a cash problem.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:52 AM   #11
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Not really, no.
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:54 AM   #12
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Originally posted by Winston
You know, Zkribbler, of those you mentioned, only Carter is eligible to run again next time around, and in some spooky way I think that serves to underline my point quite nicely. Kennedy was technically eligible to run again other then the little fact that somebody shot him in the head. Come to think of it Truman and Johnson were both one term Presidents.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:05 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Winston
Yes. Since this is the upcoming next presidential election I'm talking about, and how the Democrats potentially in the running seem less intent on "fighting to make the world a safer place" than they do on talking about it. BS. How do you know that of most of these people? Especially the ones from outside DC?
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:08 AM   #14
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It's hard to tell when your ignorant, sweeping statements aren't serious. You've been making a lot of them recently.
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Old 10-13-2006, 09:29 AM   #15
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