[johnuioyer]

I think people stopped caring when it was discovered there was no provable crime committed.

[Virosponna]

It's the American way, filing a civil suit if nothing happens in criminal court. In this case I think it's valid, her career was derailed by people in the administration. Not sure about success, though, as it's government officials she's suing.

As they say, you can't fight city hall, and you would think it's tougher if it's the exec branch of the whole country.

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[indartwm]

Originally posted by Lord Avalon
It's the American way, filing a civil suit if nothing happens in criminal court. In this case I think it's valid, her career was derailed by people in the administration. Not sure about success, though, as it's government officials she's suing.
It would be interesting to see what damages she is actually suing for. She is still employed presamably within the CIA and presuambly likewise has not been reduced in terms of pay grade. What compensatory damages could she ask for?

Do she and Joe need to claim some monetary damages and if so isn't this more than a bit offset by their sudden rocketing to rock star status with book revenues and Vanity Fair proceeds accruing as well.

edit - Upon a bit more digging Plame chose to resign form the CIA. Damages would stillbe hard to prove as she chose willingly to end her career not necessarily by being forced out.

[Optosypoeds]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
It would be interesting to see what damages she is actually suing for. She is still employed presamably within the CIA and presuambly likewise has not been reduced in terms of pay grade. What compensatory damages could she ask for?

Do she and Joe need to claim some monetary damages and if so isn't this more than a bit offset by their sudden rocketing to rock star status with book revenues and Vanity Fair proceeds accruing as well.

edit - Upon a bit more digging Plame chose to resign form the CIA. Damages would stillbe hard to prove as she chose willingly to end her career not necessarily by being forced out. Nope. The argument is constructive discharge, since revealing her identity completely compromised her ability to perform the position.

[didrexx]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


It would be interesting to see what damages she is actually suing for. She is still employed presamably within the CIA and presuambly likewise has not been reduced in terms of pay grade. What compensatory damages could she ask for?

Do she and Joe need to claim some monetary damages and if so isn't this more than a bit offset by their sudden rocketing to rock star status with book revenues and Vanity Fair proceeds accruing as well.

edit - Upon a bit more digging Plame chose to resign form the CIA. Damages would stillbe hard to prove as she chose willingly to end her career not necessarily by being forced out. She's suing for the emotional distress of allegingly having the lives of herself, her husband and her children put at risk.

& I don't know how "willing" her resignation was. I'd imaging that it's hard to do your secret agent job when you're world famous.

[RastusuadegeFrimoum]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Very hard to prove considering her job was being done at the time without need for her to take on covert roles. Her covert status was blown years earlier in the Ames affair. Proving only matters if you expect to take things to trial. A lot of the time in civil trials, proving is secondary to jury impact. People see what they want to see, and that's a trial lawyer's job - to get them to want to see what you want them to see.

Discovery and law and motion is what tends to be most annoying to defendants. Lots of burned time, legal fees mounting so fast it's like using $100 bills for toilet paper...

Paula Jones didn't prove ****, remember?

[ArrereGarhync]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer


Where did you hear that Ogie? The Ames treacheries weren't public knowledge (just us and the Russkies). Washington Times article via Bill Gertz.


COurteasy Wikipedia

A Washington Times article by Bill Gertz has asserted that "Mrs. Plame's identity as an undercover CIA officer was first disclosed to Russia in the mid-1990s by a Moscow spy, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity." [13] The article goes on to say that the Cuban government learned of Plame's CIA status "in confidential documents sent by the CIA to the U.S. Interests Section of the Swiss Embassy in Havana. The documents were supposed to be sealed from the Cuban government, but intelligence officials said the Cubans read the classified material and learned the secrets contained in them, the officials said." This information was used in a court briefing filed on behalf of several news agencies seeking to prevent Judith Miller and Matt Cooper from going to jail for not disclosing their sources to Patrick Fitzgerald and the federal grand jury investigating her exposure by Robert Novak. [14]

[Gymngatagaica]

A Washington Times article by Bill Gertz has asserted that "Mrs. Plame's identity as an undercover CIA officer was first disclosed to Russia in the mid-1990s by a Moscow spy, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity." And Ames was a traitor, the Bushits disclosed her identity for everyone.

[ppaelkos]

Before the disclosure, she had a career.
After the disclosure, her career is in shambles.

[23tommy]

Originally posted by Sava
in order to stop caring, one needs to start at some point qft

(lowercase cuz I don't care)

[Mearticbaibre]

Originally posted by TCO
She retired at her own will and had been in a function as an analyst. And with pension. It will be an uphill battle for her to prove constructive discharge. Let's see...

Plame: My employer blew my cover as a secret agent, putting in jeapordy the lives of myself, of my husband, and of my children. Contructive discharge cases have been based on less.

[RgtrsKfR]

If she was in danger for getting hurt, why was she all over the news? It's just not going to get it done?

[Siffidiolla]

Agreed. And probably a good strategy in that dimension.