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Old 11-29-2007, 04:52 AM   #1
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Dear Friends,

Please forgive me for appearing so intoxicated and silly. Perhaps that might've offended someone, I do not know.

Yesterday, a nagging doubt, that has constantly been bothering me in my heart for two years was finally put to death. I thought I couldn't possibly be happier. And then, today, I called my friend in India, and she had good news for me as well, and I'm even happier than I was yesterday. She has been suffering due to an abusive husband, and although he chased her out some seven years ago, he wouldn't give her a divorce and let her get on with her life. But he's gone now, and the case is closed and I heard the strength and joy in her voice, and I was sure I'd burst! And although she doesn't have the divorce certificate in hand, and she said he could still try to cause problems, she said with great confidence that all the good things that have happened so far are completely God's work, and He won't leave her. More than anything else, I was thrilled to hear her say that, because when I saw her this past summer, she had given up on God and I had no words to encourage her with, because she has suffered and I haven't.

Please keep her in your prayers, her name is Reeta.

In Christ,
Mary.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:03 AM   #2
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Dear Friends,

Please forgive me for appearing so intoxicated and silly. Perhaps that might've offended someone, I do not know.

Yesterday, a nagging doubt, that has constantly been bothering me in my heart for two years was finally put to death. I thought I couldn't possibly be happier. And then, today, I called my friend in India, and she had good news for me as well, and I'm even happier than I was yesterday. She has been suffering due to an abusive husband, and although he chased her out some seven years ago, he wouldn't give her a divorce and let her get on with her life. But he's gone now, and the case is closed and I heard the strength and joy in her voice, and I was sure I'd burst! And although she doesn't have the divorce certificate in hand, and she said he could still try to cause problems, she said with great confidence that all the good things that have happened so far are completely God's work, and He won't leave her. More than anything else, I was thrilled to hear her say that, because when I saw her this past summer, she had given up on God and I had no words to encourage her with, because she has suffered and I haven't.

Please keep her in your prayers, her name is Reeta.

In Christ,
Mary.
I'm not to sure it's such a good thing to wish someone dead. The best out come would have bin a change of heart by her husband and maybe hers. I'm sorry but I can't pray for a persons liberation through the loss of their husband. I do understand that in some places in the world woman are often treated as second class.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:07 PM   #3
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I'm not to sure it's such a good thing to wish someone dead. The best out come would have bin a change of heart by her husband and maybe hers. I'm sorry but I can't pray for a persons liberation through the loss of their husband. I do understand that in some places in the world woman are often treated as second class.
Dear Demetrios,

I do appologize, I had lost my ability to think straight, yesterday. I shouldn't have posted anything at all. I think I'm back on earth today. No, no one is wishing him dead. He's living a happy life with another woman. And I hope he lives long, so he has time to repent! My friend wasn't being treated as a second class human, she wasn't even being treated as a beast, she was being treated as an object to be tortured, by the man and his brothers. We just wanted him to leave her alone, that's all.

In Christ, Mary.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:40 AM   #4
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No need to apologize (at least to me) for your elation. I hate to see people being treated so poorly. So I hope her struggle and hardships are finally over.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:24 PM   #5
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No need to apologize (at least to me) for your elation.
I do not understand that either. Now Mary, you have to ask forgiveness to us for apologizing without need.

Reeta will be in our prayers. I hope at least that there is a consolation in knowing that many people before and after her were subjected to violence and abuse. Unfortunately that's our fallen world.

It is wonderful that she renewed her hopes and trust in God. Maybe it is the work of your prayers because you love your friend so much, dear Mary.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:51 PM   #6
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I do not understand that either. Now Mary, you have to ask forgiveness to us for apologizing without need.
Please forgive me for appologizing when there was no need to! But you've got to admit, you never know... there are those things called 'unknown sins...' And besides, isn't it hard work to put up with someone who's riding a pendulum? Elated once, and miserable the next...



Reeta will be in our prayers. I hope at least that there is a consolation in knowing that many people before and after her were subjected to violence and abuse. Unfortunately that's our fallen world.
Dear Nina, how can I find consolation in that? I just finished reading about a 22 yr old mother who stabbed and killed her own two children in the bathroom of a store! A one yr old and a 3 yr old. So I"ve been sitting here, crying for her and her children, remembering all the times that I've been so angry with my own, that I've felt like I would like to get rid of them too.

I guess, now that I"m not so elated anymore, I'll probably start saying things I shouldn't because I'm sad.

What can we do to help, Nina? There's so many people, so broken up and miserable and hurting! It makes me feel guilty for all the goodness that God has blessed me with. But then, I don't want to be filled up with so much pain and misery and anger.

Thank you for praying for Reeta.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:21 AM   #7
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Please forgive me for appologizing when there was no need to! But you've got to admit, you never know... there are those things called 'unknown sins...' And besides, isn't it hard work to put up with someone who's riding a pendulum? Elated once, and miserable the next...
You made a very good point with the unknown sins... Because I do not understand many things. So thanks!

Dear Nina, how can I find consolation in that? I just finished reading about a 22 yr old mother who stabbed and killed her own two children in the bathroom of a store! A one yr old and a 3 yr old. So I"ve been sitting here, crying for her and her children, remembering all the times that I've been so angry with my own, that I've felt like I would like to get rid of them too. I guess, now that I"m not so elated anymore, I'll probably start saying things I shouldn't because I'm sad. Owwwkay! Do not loose balance now because of the news. St. Silouan of Athos (I think) advised us not to read newspapers and books that make us sad and make us loose our peace and delight in God.

I did not mean consolation in that way. I meant it as in an Italian (I think) saying that we are not the first and not the last to suffer. We are all suffering because of the fallen world. If you do not understand this still, please disregard it because it is just based on a folk saying.

What can we do to help, Nina? There's so many people, so broken up and miserable and hurting! It makes me feel guilty for all the goodness that God has blessed me with. But then, I don't want to be filled up with so much pain and misery and anger. Do not! Be peaceful whenever you can manage to be. We know from the Fathers that only God is the source of everything good. Of course we can help and allow ourselves to be His tools here, but the real rest and delight is in Heaven. We must accept our reality like we accept the fact that Adam and Eve fell, that we all fall each second, that this is a fallen world with consequences that follow.

Thank you for praying for Reeta. You know that my prayers do not fly even up to the ceiling.

P.S I was joking when I said you need to apologize to us for asking forgiveness without need. You did not need to. Sorry!
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