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Old 08-12-2011, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default Berlusconi on the way out
Congratulations to Italy!
This self serving ceep is finally going
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:04 AM   #2
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Creep that is.
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:35 PM   #3
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Stone,I'm Italian and I dont know....be happy...be worried...
Shurely I will have a party the day he really goes...
but the other choices can be even worst....on a side Politics in Italy are like a Lobby,and they dont care about the wealth of the peoples...they care only about votes...and their wealth...So we have a lot of small Berlusconi as politicians in Italy...on a side he was a big buissness man and so he had knowledge on how to do money...the future ones...maybe self serving creeps without buissness knowledge.
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Old 09-12-2011, 01:49 AM   #4
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HI Valenzino,
I have a sister living in Genoa, I don't no all the details regarding Berlusconi's
buisiness dealings but from what I hear, most people over there are pleased that he is going? I think whatever happens, a beautiful and important country like Italy will survive. Good luck and enjoy your orchids!
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:25 AM   #5
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Whether its Italy, Spain, Greece, USA......50% of the population is too young to work or too old and sick to work, and business making robots faster than people to replace anyone in the right age group who want to work.

Old people paid into retirement with 1950's $, but getting paid in retirement and health costs in 2011 $$$$ and lots of pension systems went bust when the stock markets took the big dumper in the previous recession.

Austerity isn't to trim the fat out of government, but to suck any accumulated wealth out of the older non working demographics.

The right wing won't admit it, but they yearn for the good old days when grandma and grandpa crapped out by 65 before they had a chance to burn up their pensions and suck up health benefits.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:48 AM   #6
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You can include oz in that list of countries.
Our population is ageing fast with no-one to replace it so gov.is desperate for money. They tried to tax the western mining companies with a super- profits tax, but they kicked up a big fuss so now they've introduced a Co2 tax which will
end up sucking even more $$ from the little guy and raise my fule bill yet again. And all this from a socialist gov!!.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:09 AM   #7
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No difference between right and left wings....as history speak very loudly about it..
is only matter of money and power...
..and democracy,like is in italy,is only a "dictatorship of many" instead of one...

...europe as Italy...politics are ass lickers of banks and oil companies...or are the sae peoples that got oil companies, banks and other multinational groups...
...so how a name at the head of a government can change the system...

In Italy the left wing based all her effort and campaigns on destroyng Berlusconi(helped by him and his way of acting),and not on a serious project...now that Berlusca is down...they have no plans made and dont know how to rule!And also the left italian wing is an impossible aggregation of many different thinking peoples that now will splitt up and loose its power,for 2 reasons:
1)The end of the motivation that have put tem together
2)the rush for power
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:09 AM   #8
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sounds sadly familiar... here most politicians regardless of parties just want to get into office to 'play the game', and don't care what they say to get there. it's a fun game for them to brainwash people into thinking there is a difference between them, when they all have their hands in the same cookie jar. often they are so intent on getting into office that they really don't have an idea about what to do when they get there, other than find some important friends to tag and vote along with
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:05 AM   #9
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:37 AM   #10
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I agree with all this......seems like a real mess world-wide. it seems the only thing we can do in the U.S. to "right the boat" is to vote out whoever comes up for re-election in 2012 - from the President on down. Then (maybe... just maybe) the ones that are left will get the message that we are sick of this constant grid-lock between the parties. Doesn't make any difference whether you're a Democrat or Republican, vote that same way if you want to, but let's send a strong message to those that are left. We want results......and 2014 is another election.....can't result in any more chaos than we have now....

Also, with most countries in the world (including ours) having serious debt problems and our states on the verge of bankruptcy, someone has to ask the question "Where's all the money "? Where did it go? Maybe some smart PhD candidate will write the thesis to explain it all.....someday....

Sorry for the rant, but I feel like we are losing control of a government that used to be pretty (somewhat?) more capable of making sense to those of us who have to work for a living....

Thanks,
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:43 AM   #11
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:12 PM   #12
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cheer up valenzino

there is nothing different here in Thailand.
let me know when you arrived ok?
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:09 AM   #13
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So you are going to vote out the current President and replace him with -- one of the Republicans who want to take his place? What a joke! Those right-wingers are among the 1% who caused all the problems in the first place.

Of course, the 99% voted for those in power -- just shows that it takes an uninformed and gullible electorate. Which is what we have.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:23 AM   #14
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In response to all the cheering at his departure, Berlusconi said '' THIS IS WHAT I GET AFTER EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE DONE FOR THEM ''
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:27 PM   #15
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Hi Dot,

Since we don't have term limits for these clowns, it's the only way I can think of to send the message that we're sick of all this. The problem with Obama IMHO is that he focussed on the wrong thing (Health Care Reform) when he had a Democratic controlled congress instead of the economy/jobs issue. Obama is just the second Democrat I've voted for for President- the first one was John Kennedy - so I guess I'm just a dis-illusioned Independent at heart. Romney's looking pretty good about now......but they all seem to look good until they get in office......
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:00 AM   #16
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I'm an independent, also, Tom -- with progressive leanings. The problem with Obama isn't that he focused on the wrong thing. It's that he tried too hard to meet in the middle, and ended up caving to the right wing. He also tried too hard to just throw money at our problems. I wish he'd taken a cue from FDR, who really had a plan for getting this country back on track. Successfully so.
You like Romney? Have you actually listened to what he's said?
All that said, I really wish we had a third party, because both the Dems and the Repubs are much too tied to the moneyed interests in this country. The Dems have potential, but most of them don't have the guts to stand up for what is right, or what they say they believe in.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:33 PM   #17
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Yesterday I visisted an uncle of mine, while we were leaving I noticed that the house across the street had a flag hanging. So I asked what it was all about.

My uncle told me that the women that lived in that house was italian and she had hung that flag the moment that Berlusconi resigned.
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