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Old 08-23-2012, 03:03 AM   #1
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Default Police officers are now being trained on how to deal with open carry activists
Ok this is a first... Somebody buy this officer a drink. Especially at 4:15 onwards
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:03 AM   #2
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Where are they? For its not like that here.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:36 AM   #3
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Open Carry - Eugene Oregon






It is a very interesting exchange. The cops here are quite polite and try a number of social arguments (not legal arguments) to see if the open-carry individual is making trouble or just out for a walk. It honestly looks like the cops learned something here - they had the impression that ANYONE who open carries is trying to make trouble for cops....and a few minutes later they're letting him go. I don't think they even inspect his gun, even though he states the reason he prefers to open carry is so he can be L&L.

Come on, admit it - if all cops were like this, society would be better than it is now.



(I'm too tired to take the hard line today...someone else do it, lol)
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:40 AM   #4
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(I'm too tired to take the hard line today...someone else do it, lol)
Okay...

Woo WOO!
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:03 PM   #5
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Ok this is a first... Somebody buy this officer a drink. Especially at 4:15 onwards
Another ignorant Cop who 'plays nice' while he subverts his oath and turns lawful citizens into 'possible criminals'.

Whats the difference between a Cop that unlawfully stops you for open carry and he is nice about it, compared to a Cop that unlawfully stops you and is a dick about it?
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:58 PM   #6
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Another ignorant Cop who 'plays nice' while he subverts his oath and turns lawful citizens into 'possible criminals'.

Whats the difference between a Cop that unlawfully stops you for open carry and he is nice about it, compared to a Cop that unlawfully stops you and is a dick about it?
That's kind of what I was thinking. Guilty until proven innocent. I don't see cops going around stopping other cops to make sure their firearms are compliant with policy.

I'm still seeing an "us vs. them" mentality that I would like to see gone.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:36 PM   #7
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Note the point where he tells the "subject" to raise both his arms horizontally. The "subject" does so. Had he failed to do so I suspect serious bumps would appear upon subject.

Just a thought ... but when asked to do something to show that the orifficer has authority ... repeat his command as if it were your own thought and then go ahead and do it ... as in

Orifficer ... "Raise both your arms like this".
You ... "Would you mind if I went ahead and raised my arms?"
then just do it
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:26 AM   #8
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Another ignorant Cop who 'plays nice' while he subverts his oath and turns lawful citizens into 'possible criminals'.

Whats the difference between a Cop that unlawfully stops you for open carry and he is nice about it, compared to a Cop that unlawfully stops you and is a dick about it?
I suppose the difference is it looks like buddy is open carrying a full auto machine gun.

Until that is permitted in that state, I suppose there's going to be questions with the latest rash of goofballs running around shooting up public places. Unfortunately everyone is destined to suffer the lowest common denominators of society. That will never change.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:49 AM   #9
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LOL @ "Stop with the Rules"...

What a joker...!
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:33 AM   #10
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The other end of the spectrum is everyone being allowed to carry loaded full auto anything hanging out walking down the street, however I've seen enough poor handling of loaded weapons that I'm glad only one bullet came out instead of 4 or 5.

The sad fact is there's too many tards in society that can't properly handle the scenario.

Gun safety for some people (the walk and chew gum type) amounts to saying "oops" a lot.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:39 AM   #11
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The other end of the spectrum is everyone being allowed to carry loaded full auto anything hanging out walking down the street, however I've seen enough poor handling of loaded weapons that I'm glad only one bullet came out instead of 4 or 5.

The sad fact is there's too many tards in society that can't properly handle the scenario.

Gun safety for some people (the walk and chew gum type) amounts to saying "oops" a lot.
This sort of fits, in my lifetime I have witnessed people that can not and should not handle a screwdriver without being a danger.
There are people in this world that should never ever think about handling them, more so with a firearm.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:43 AM   #12
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Gun safety for some people (the walk and chew gum type) amounts to saying "oops" a lot.
Accidental Natural Selection?
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:31 AM   #13
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Accidental Natural Selection?
Looking at it that way, I suppose the inherent flaw with rifles is that it's more difficult to point them at yourself when holding them.
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:17 AM   #14
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This sort of fits, in my lifetime I have witnessed people that can not and should not handle a screwdriver without being a danger.
There are people in this world that should never ever think about handling them, more so with a firearm.
I'm a huge fan of relaxed gun laws but full auto open carry for anyone walking around the streets is particularly insane. There's just no reason for it except during times of full on war. If someone feels the need to have that walking around town, they are not right in the head.
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:25 AM   #15
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Overall, I gotta give it to the kid. He had the balls to confront the man head-on (which is a f*ck of a lot more than most would ever attempt). He stood his ground (the cop was on his game this day with the cameras rolling) and didn't freak out shouting or something else stupid and it all turned out the way it should. Granted, he should have known that the style (design) of his gun would take him into the world of "reasonable suspicion". I guess if you don't want to be stopped, make sure they can easily tell what type of gun you have..........
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:33 AM   #16
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Granted, he should have known that the style (design) of his gun would take him into the world of "reasonable suspicion". I guess if you don't want to be stopped, make sure they can easily tell what type of gun you have..........
This is important. The 'reasonable suspicion' was completely warranted, given the firearm type/style. Don't assume cops know more than you folks do about firearms. In fact, assume they know less....a lot less. They are trained with just a few types of firearms.
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:35 AM   #17
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The verifiability of said reasonable suspicion is flimsy at best: how does one determine whether a gun is semiauto or fully automatic?
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:48 AM   #18
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The verifiability of said reasonable suspicion is flimsy at best: how does one determine whether a gun is semiauto or fully automatic?
I dunno, I'm pretty good at identifying various firearms at a glance. If that model was ever manufactured as select fire at any point, it's safe to say you're going to get asked about it eventually. "well...so is it select fire?" being the #1 question asked.

Especially if you're taking it for a walk around the neighborhood. "Hey everybody look at my excellent gun, but don't ever ask me a question about it"....seems a bit ridiculous.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:30 AM   #19
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Whether the cops would have grounds to detain one indefinitely is purely academic; if Bubba becomes displeased, he will find a way to send one up the creek, his partner will cover for him, and the matter will be squashed if one is foolish enough to file a complaint.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:57 AM   #20
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Whether the cops would have grounds to detain one indefinitely is purely academic; if Bubba becomes displeased, he will find a way to send one up the creek, his partner will cover for him, and the matter will be squashed if one is foolish enough to file a complaint.
Thing is certain realities will always wind up at the same point no matter who is "in charge".

Toss out one regime, and the next one that rises up will end up doing the exact same thing because of the what the situation entails.
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