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Old 08-04-2012, 12:30 AM   #1
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Default House Passes Bill Eliminating Senate Confirmation for Presidential Appointees
Holy shit balls.

The House of Representatives is set to consider legislation Tuesday that would exempt certain presidential appointees from having to be confirmed by the Senate.

UPDATE: The House passed the legislation Tuesday night by a vote of 261-116. The bill now goes to President Obama’s desk for his signature.


By a vote of 261-116, the House of Representatives passed a bill rewriting Article II of the Constitution and divesting the Senate of the power to accept or reject the appointment of many presidential nominees.

Last year, the Senate passed the measure by a vote of 79-20, so it now goes to the desk of President Obama for his signature.

"Important positions will be filled faster, government agencies will be more capable of offering valuable services to their constituents, and the overall confirmation process will be more efficient,” said Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Dozens of key management positions in the Departments of Agriculture, Defense, Commerce, and Homeland Security (including the treasurer of the United States, the deputy administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration, the director of the Office for Domestic Preparedness, and the assistant administrator of FEMA) will now be filled by presidential edict, without the need of the “advice and consent” of the Senate, a phrase specifically removed from the process in the text of the bill.

Although the House vote occurred on Tuesday, the Senate voted to surrender its constitutional check on the executive over a year ago on June 29, 2011.

Despite a last-minute attempt by some House leaders to put the measure to a voice vote, thus allowing members to vote in favor of the legislation without being listed on the record, a roll call vote was taken, and the name of every congressman who voted to unconstitutionally neuter the legislative branch is listed.

More at [link to www.thenewamerican.com]


FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 537

S 679 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 31-Jul-2012 7:06 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass
BILL TITLE: To reduce the number of executive positions subject to Senate confirmation

[link to clerk.house.gov]




XML U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 112th Congress - 1st Session

Vote Counts: YEAs 79
NAYs 20
Not Voting 1


[link to www.senate.gov]

House Passes Bill Eliminating Senate Confirmation for Presidential Appointees

August 3, 2012

in Front Page, Government



By Alex Pappas
UPDATE: The House passed the legislation Tuesday night by a vote of 261-116. The bill now goes to President Obama’s desk for his signature.


The House of Representatives is set to consider legislation Tuesday that would exempt certain presidential appointees from having to be confirmed by the Senate.


But a number of conservative groups are arguing that the “Presidential Efficiency and Streamlining Act” amounts to Congress neutering itself and giving the executive branch unprecedented power.




Presidential appointees that would no longer require Senate confirmation under the legislation include the treasurer of the United States and the deputy administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration.


“The United States Constitution does not bestow kingly powers on the President to appoint the senior officers of the government with no process,” wrote Thomas McClusky, the senior vice president for the Family Research Council’s legislative arm, in a Monday memo to lawmakers.


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Old 08-04-2012, 12:51 AM   #2
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Well, it's true that GovCorp will become much more streamlined and efficient without any remaining Constitutional responsibilities.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:04 AM   #3
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The "Republican" house btw. For those still thinking one "team" is better than another.

The same 2 dirtbags keep popping up.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s office didn’t comment on questions Tuesday from TheDC about the bill.

But the intent of the legislation is to help tackle the backlog of presidential appointees needing congressional confirmation. Critics like McClusky argue this is the result of a larger problem.

“If the Senate wants to streamline the process, it should eliminate some of the administration’s positions,” McClusky wrote.

The legislation, sponsored by New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer,

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/31/ho...#ixzz22WzG99GU I guess U.S. senators are too busy on their knees blowing Israelis to have anytime to do their work.
This makes it easier for them.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:11 AM   #4
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Nah. The Senate is still chock full of power-worshipping socio/psychopaths who are loathe to give up any "authority" at all, even lowly Senate confirmation hearings.

I doubt that the Senate would pass it.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:18 AM   #5
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Nah. The Senate is still chock full of power-worshipping socio/psychopaths who are loathe to give up any "authority" at all, even lowly Senate confirmation hearings.

I doubt that the Senate would pass it.
Done.

The legislation, sponsored by New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, passed the Senate in June 2011, with 20 Republicans voting against it. The Senate bill has 17 co-sponsors, including both Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/31/ho...#ixzz22X2fNFtr
The Emperor's stamp is all that is required to make this a law in this Just and Free Nation.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:41 AM   #6
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well ain't that some shit.

lol
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:35 AM   #7
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So how can they get around this without amending the Constitution?
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:18 AM   #8
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So how can they get around this without amending the Constitution?
Because the District of Columbia (aka UNITED STATES, INC.) incorporated as a municipal corporation in 1871 is not bound by the Constitution of 1789?

Fun fact: a legal fiction/commercial entity GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES "also traded as" BARACK H OBAMA can be found listed on Dun and Bradstreet, along with some other very interesting ties -

https://creditreports.dnb.com/webapp...untry=US#goTop
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:32 AM   #9
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"Important positions will be filled faster, government agencies will be more capable of offering valuable services to their constituents, and the overall confirmation process will be more efficient,” said Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee."

"Valuable" to who? "Efficient" to who?
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:44 AM   #10
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"Important positions will be filled faster, government agencies will be more capable of offering valuable services to their constituents, and the overall confirmation process will be more efficient,” said Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee."

"Valuable" to who? "Efficient" to who?
you have to ask?

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Old 08-04-2012, 03:50 AM   #11
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Because the District of Columbia (aka UNITED STATES, INC.) incorporated as a municipal corporation in 1871 is not bound by the Constitution of 1789?

Fun fact: a legal fiction/commercial entity GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES "also traded as" BARACK H OBAMA can be found listed on Dun and Bradstreet, along with some other very interesting ties -

https://creditreports.dnb.com/webapp...untry=US#goTop
Yeah I know, I guess it was rhetorical in asking. They don't even hide it anymore that they aren't even lawful.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:58 AM   #12
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Yeah I know, I guess it was rhetorical in asking. They don't even hide it anymore that they aren't even lawful.
Those asshats are getting pretty fucking cheeky these days.

Their partners in crime have a word for that - chutzpah.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:48 PM   #13
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Well they have worked long and hard.
How about a 5 week vacation.
It's well deserved.
The quarrelsome House couldn't even agree on whether to formally adjourn, but that didn't stop Congress from taking five weeks off. http://news.yahoo.com/congress-much-...072755735.html

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