All Over America Government Control Freaks Are Forcing Preppers Back On To The Grid - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**JohnImamadviser** · 06-20-2012, 01:35 AM

Is it really happing or just scare tactics?
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...on-to-the-grid

In recent years there have been huge numbers of Americans that have sought to go "off the grid" and live a more independent lifestyle. It has been estimated that there are now approximately 3 million "preppers" in the United States, and many of them just want to be left alone so that they can take care of themselves and their families on their own land. But that is not the way America works anymore. In many areas of the country, government control freaks have essentially declared war on preppers and are attempting to force them back on to the grid. In some states, "nuisance abatement teams" are conducting armed raids on off the grid properties. Property owners are being cited for "code violations" and are being told that they are "bothering the neighbors". In some cases, trees and gardens are being forcibly removed. In other cases, entire structures are being relocated or torn down. And in the most extreme cases, property owners are actually being forced off of their properties completely by these control freaks. You see, the truth is that in America you don't really own your property. You are essentially renting it, and you can only do with it what the government allows you to do. And the government does not like people disconnecting from the grid and living an independent lifestyle. So these battles over property rights are probably going to get even more intense in the years ahead.

These days, many Americans are choosing to grow "survival gardens" as a way to help feed their families and become more independent of the system.

But in some areas of the country these survival gardens are being forcibly ripped out by government control freaks. Just check out what happened to one unemployed woman in Tulsa, Oklahoma....

A Tulsa woman is suing the city's code enforcement officers after she said they cut down her garden with no cause.

Denise Morrison said she has more than 100 plant varieties in her front and back yards and all of them are edible and have a purpose.

She knows which ones will treat arthritis, which will make your food spicy, which ones keep mosquitoes away and treat bug bites, but she said none of that matter to city inspectors.

Last August, Morrison's front and back yards were filled with flowers in bloom, lemon, stevia, garlic chives, grapes, strawberries, apple mint, spearmint, peppermint, an apple tree, walnut tree, pecan trees and much more.
The government agents left her with nothing. They ripped her garden to shreds. She was relying on that garden for her food and her medicine. Because she is unemployed, she doesn't have any money to go to the store and buy all those things.

Now she is absolutely destitute....

"I came back three days later, sat in my driveway, cried and left," Morrison said.
Oh, but at least the government agents can report that "everything is now up to code".

What is happening to this country?

In the state of California, armed "nuisance abatement teams" are intimidating property owners into getting connected back into the grid, and in some instances they are forcing homeowners off their land entirely.

When I first watched the videos posted below I got quite angry.

This first video is about government control freaks driving people off their land in the California desert....

This second video is also about what is going on with "off the grid" properties in California....

After watching those videos, it is easy to understand why millions of people have been leaving the state.

Those running things do not want us to be independent. Rather, they want us completely and totally dependent on the "nanny state" from the cradle to the grave. They want us as "connected" to the system as possible so that they can watch us, monitor us and control us.

Sadly, most Americans do not even realize that the United States is slowly but surely being transformed into a giant prison control grid.

This is happening in thousands of different ways.

For example, eventually all of us will not be able to go anywhere without our faces being recognized and recorded.

Yes, just like the movie "Minority Report". In fact, facial recognition advertising billboards are already being used in Japan.

Facial recognition is even being used on the Internet. Facebook recently purchased a facial recognition startup company called Face.com. This startup company has technology that can positively identify you in any photo and can even guess your age.

The following is from an official statement on the Face.com website....

Facebook has acquired Face.com! Our mission is and has always been to find new and exciting ways to make face recognition a fun, engaging part of people’s lives, and incorporate remarkable technology into everyday consumer products. If you’re anything like us, Facebook is a part of your life every single day. We keep up with our friends and family, share interesting (or mundane) experiences from our daily lives, and perhaps most importantly for us, we share a LOT of photos.
The truth is that nothing any of us do on the Internet will ever be private again. That ship has already sailed.

We still have a lot of freedom to say what we want on the Internet, but that window is rapidly closing as well.

Internet censorship in the United States is growing at a very fast pace, and it is only a matter of time before entire websites start getting shut down for political reasons.

The following is from a recent CNN article about the explosive growth of Internet censorship....

In the last half of 2011, U.S. agencies asked Google to remove 6,192 individual pieces of content from its search results, blog posts or archives of online videos, according to the report. That's up 718% compared with the 757 such items that U.S. agencies asked Google to remove in the six months prior.
If they don't like what we do on the Internet, they will just come in and wipe it out.

If they don't like what we do on our land, they will just come in and chop it down or forcibly remove it.

We do not live in the "land of the free" anymore.

"Amerika" is becoming a prison state.

And every single year the prison grid gets tighter and more oppressive in thousands of different ways.

If you are doing something "out of the box" on your own property right now, you might want to keep it very quiet.

If the wrong person finds out, an armed "nuisance abatement team" might just show up at your door one morning and hit you with several dozen "code violations".

I don't know what country we are living in, but it sure isn't America.

**Kilsimpaile** · 06-20-2012, 02:54 AM

I have never been too fond of that blog because of the author's consistent failure to meet his burden of proof. In this specific instance, he uses cherry-picking and cites his article with other cherry-picked blog posts.

**nerkvcbtre** · 06-20-2012, 07:21 AM

Spooky stuff.

**BamSaitinypap** · 06-20-2012, 11:34 AM

Here's the list of all the ICLEI locations throughout the world. ICLEI is the regional implementation tendrils of Agenda 21. Tulsa, Oklahoma is on the list. That should give you a hint at what happened.
http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=11454

Is your city/county on the list? If so you could have the same crap happen to you.

This is a pattern in my view. Los Angeles County has had a similar thing going on:

Los Angeles County is on the ICLEI list too. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but this all fits together to me.

**Aozenee** · 06-20-2012, 03:11 PM

i looked at the article and was glad to see the links.

thanks for the info !

i'm working hard to avoid the "Soviet-izing influence" of the Jew-S gov & their local backers.

but i'm also fascinated by it & trying to document it myself.

that article had some pretty good sources.

**wallyfindme** · 06-20-2012, 03:55 PM

I feel for the poor woman and im angered at the brutes who did it, BUT- as i have said ad nauseum- get the hell out of the cities NOW. We are in a war, weather or not you would choose to believe it...these pin headed enforcement brutes will be unleashed on all of us in the soon coming times...in any war, this one is a war of ideas and philosophies, getting out of an enemy stronghold is a first priority and not an after thought!...soon all your precious preps and herb gardens and silver will be reported by a neighborhood watch commander to the police who will confiscate it.....unless of course you live in a state where individual preperation/responsibility/freedom are still held dear.

**DuePew** · 06-20-2012, 04:04 PM

Here's the list of all the ICLEI locations throughout the world. ICLEI is the regional implementation tendrils of Agenda 21. Tulsa, Oklahoma is on the list. That should give you a hint at what happened.
http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=11454

Is your city/county on the list? If so you could have the same crap happen to you.

Hmmm...

ICLEI is an international association of local governments as well as national and regional local government organizations who have made a commitment to sustainable development. So why would they chop down people's gardens if they are all about "sustainable development"?

Oh, by sustainable development, they mean developing a sustainable police state and control grid.

**BamSaitinypap** · 06-20-2012, 04:19 PM

It's not sustainable unless some bureaucrat is managing your life from some cubicle. They want everyone living in high rise studio apartments in compacted cities without cars or land/home ownership. They only want mega corporations farming GMO crops so they can profit off you that way, and then keep you on their bullshit "healthcare" system. It's all one control grid, and we are to be farmed.

Pay very close attention to the ICLEI list since even if you live in a rural town, if they have control over a county, they are coming after you!

**evammaUselp** · 06-20-2012, 04:32 PM

Then.....Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Now..... death, slave to gov't, and misery

Our founding fathers are probably rolling over in their graves.

My God what a mess ! Speechless.

**nerkvcbtre** · 06-20-2012, 05:03 PM

Oh, by sustainable development, they mean developing a sustainable police state and control grid.

Yes, they are trying to redefine the word sustainable currently to include taxability in it.

**evammaUselp** · 06-20-2012, 05:29 PM

It's not sustainable unless some bureaucrat is managing your life from some cubicle. They want everyone living in high rise studio apartments in compacted cities without cars or land/home ownership. They only want mega corporations farming GMO crops so they can profit off you that way, and then keep you on their bullshit "healthcare" system. It's all one control grid, and we are to be farmed.

Pay very close attention to the ICLEI list since even if you live in a rural town, if they have control over a county, they are coming after you!

I just went and read more then I wanted to. Im done reading for the day.
I think I just died and went to hell. I'll be in a state of catatonic shock until further notice. Beyond speechless now.
Feel ill and need to barf first. Shami, omg.
Heaven help us all.

**nerkvcbtre** · 06-20-2012, 06:28 PM

I think I just died and went to hell. I'll be in a state of catatonic shock until further notice. Beyond speechless now.
Feel ill and need to barf first. Shami, omg.
Heaven help us all.

The Earth as a small island in the North Atlantic

This is an announcement from genetic control:

It is my sad duty to inform you of a four foot restriction on
Humanoid height.

Extract from coversation of joe ordinary in local puborama
I hear the directors of genetic control have been buying all the
Properties that have recently been sold, taking risks oh so bold.
Its said now that people will be shorter in height,
They can fit twice as many in the same building site.
(they say its alright),
Beginning with the tenants of the town of harlow,
In the interest of humanity, theyve been told they must go,
Told they must go-go-go-go.

Sir john de pebble of united blacksprings international
I think Ive fixed a new deal
A dozen properties - well buy at five and sell at thirty four,
Some are still inhabited,
Its time to send the winkler to see them,
Hell have to work some more.

Memo from satin peter of rock development ltd.
With land in your hand, youll be happy on earth
Then invest in the church for your heaven.

**Piediahef** · 06-20-2012, 09:12 PM

time is shorter then we all would like to think .

**wallyfindme** · 06-21-2012, 03:28 PM

duplicate thread?

**DuePew** · 06-21-2012, 03:50 PM

Yes.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...-100-varieties

06-20-2012, 01:35 AM	#1
JohnImamadviser Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 551 Senior Member	All Over America Government Control Freaks Are Forcing Preppers Back On To The Grid Is it really happing or just scare tactics? http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...on-to-the-grid In recent years there have been huge numbers of Americans that have sought to go "off the grid" and live a more independent lifestyle. It has been estimated that there are now approximately 3 million "preppers" in the United States, and many of them just want to be left alone so that they can take care of themselves and their families on their own land. But that is not the way America works anymore. In many areas of the country, government control freaks have essentially declared war on preppers and are attempting to force them back on to the grid. In some states, "nuisance abatement teams" are conducting armed raids on off the grid properties. Property owners are being cited for "code violations" and are being told that they are "bothering the neighbors". In some cases, trees and gardens are being forcibly removed. In other cases, entire structures are being relocated or torn down. And in the most extreme cases, property owners are actually being forced off of their properties completely by these control freaks. You see, the truth is that in America you don't really own your property. You are essentially renting it, and you can only do with it what the government allows you to do. And the government does not like people disconnecting from the grid and living an independent lifestyle. So these battles over property rights are probably going to get even more intense in the years ahead. These days, many Americans are choosing to grow "survival gardens" as a way to help feed their families and become more independent of the system. But in some areas of the country these survival gardens are being forcibly ripped out by government control freaks. Just check out what happened to one unemployed woman in Tulsa, Oklahoma.... A Tulsa woman is suing the city's code enforcement officers after she said they cut down her garden with no cause. Denise Morrison said she has more than 100 plant varieties in her front and back yards and all of them are edible and have a purpose. She knows which ones will treat arthritis, which will make your food spicy, which ones keep mosquitoes away and treat bug bites, but she said none of that matter to city inspectors. Last August, Morrison's front and back yards were filled with flowers in bloom, lemon, stevia, garlic chives, grapes, strawberries, apple mint, spearmint, peppermint, an apple tree, walnut tree, pecan trees and much more. The government agents left her with nothing. They ripped her garden to shreds. She was relying on that garden for her food and her medicine. Because she is unemployed, she doesn't have any money to go to the store and buy all those things. Now she is absolutely destitute.... "I came back three days later, sat in my driveway, cried and left," Morrison said. Oh, but at least the government agents can report that "everything is now up to code". What is happening to this country? In the state of California, armed "nuisance abatement teams" are intimidating property owners into getting connected back into the grid, and in some instances they are forcing homeowners off their land entirely. When I first watched the videos posted below I got quite angry. This first video is about government control freaks driving people off their land in the California desert.... This second video is also about what is going on with "off the grid" properties in California.... After watching those videos, it is easy to understand why millions of people have been leaving the state. Those running things do not want us to be independent. Rather, they want us completely and totally dependent on the "nanny state" from the cradle to the grave. They want us as "connected" to the system as possible so that they can watch us, monitor us and control us. Sadly, most Americans do not even realize that the United States is slowly but surely being transformed into a giant prison control grid. This is happening in thousands of different ways. For example, eventually all of us will not be able to go anywhere without our faces being recognized and recorded. Yes, just like the movie "Minority Report". In fact, facial recognition advertising billboards are already being used in Japan. Facial recognition is even being used on the Internet. Facebook recently purchased a facial recognition startup company called Face.com. This startup company has technology that can positively identify you in any photo and can even guess your age. The following is from an official statement on the Face.com website.... Facebook has acquired Face.com! Our mission is and has always been to find new and exciting ways to make face recognition a fun, engaging part of people’s lives, and incorporate remarkable technology into everyday consumer products. If you’re anything like us, Facebook is a part of your life every single day. We keep up with our friends and family, share interesting (or mundane) experiences from our daily lives, and perhaps most importantly for us, we share a LOT of photos. The truth is that nothing any of us do on the Internet will ever be private again. That ship has already sailed. We still have a lot of freedom to say what we want on the Internet, but that window is rapidly closing as well. Internet censorship in the United States is growing at a very fast pace, and it is only a matter of time before entire websites start getting shut down for political reasons. The following is from a recent CNN article about the explosive growth of Internet censorship.... In the last half of 2011, U.S. agencies asked Google to remove 6,192 individual pieces of content from its search results, blog posts or archives of online videos, according to the report. That's up 718% compared with the 757 such items that U.S. agencies asked Google to remove in the six months prior. If they don't like what we do on the Internet, they will just come in and wipe it out. If they don't like what we do on our land, they will just come in and chop it down or forcibly remove it. We do not live in the "land of the free" anymore. "Amerika" is becoming a prison state. And every single year the prison grid gets tighter and more oppressive in thousands of different ways. If you are doing something "out of the box" on your own property right now, you might want to keep it very quiet. If the wrong person finds out, an armed "nuisance abatement team" might just show up at your door one morning and hit you with several dozen "code violations". 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06-20-2012, 02:54 AM	#2
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BamSaitinypap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	Here's the list of all the ICLEI locations throughout the world. ICLEI is the regional implementation tendrils of Agenda 21. Tulsa, Oklahoma is on the list. That should give you a hint at what happened. http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=11454 Is your city/county on the list? If so you could have the same crap happen to you. This is a pattern in my view. Los Angeles County has had a similar thing going on: Los Angeles County is on the ICLEI list too. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but this all fits together to me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 03:11 PM	#5
Aozenee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	i looked at the article and was glad to see the links. thanks for the info ! i'm working hard to avoid the "Soviet-izing influence" of the Jew-S gov & their local backers. but i'm also fascinated by it & trying to document it myself. that article had some pretty good sources. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 03:55 PM	#6
wallyfindme Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 609 Senior Member	I feel for the poor woman and im angered at the brutes who did it, BUT- as i have said ad nauseum- get the hell out of the cities NOW. We are in a war, weather or not you would choose to believe it...these pin headed enforcement brutes will be unleashed on all of us in the soon coming times...in any war, this one is a war of ideas and philosophies, getting out of an enemy stronghold is a first priority and not an after thought!...soon all your precious preps and herb gardens and silver will be reported by a neighborhood watch commander to the police who will confiscate it.....unless of course you live in a state where individual preperation/responsibility/freedom are still held dear. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 04:04 PM	#7
DuePew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	Here's the list of all the ICLEI locations throughout the world. ICLEI is the regional implementation tendrils of Agenda 21. Tulsa, Oklahoma is on the list. That should give you a hint at what happened. http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=11454 Is your city/county on the list? If so you could have the same crap happen to you. Hmmm... ICLEI is an international association of local governments as well as national and regional local government organizations who have made a commitment to sustainable development. So why would they chop down people's gardens if they are all about "sustainable development"? Oh, by sustainable development, they mean developing a sustainable police state and control grid. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 04:19 PM	#8
BamSaitinypap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	It's not sustainable unless some bureaucrat is managing your life from some cubicle. They want everyone living in high rise studio apartments in compacted cities without cars or land/home ownership. They only want mega corporations farming GMO crops so they can profit off you that way, and then keep you on their bullshit "healthcare" system. It's all one control grid, and we are to be farmed. Pay very close attention to the ICLEI list since even if you live in a rural town, if they have control over a county, they are coming after you! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 04:32 PM	#9
evammaUselp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 427 Senior Member	Then.....Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Now..... death, slave to gov't, and misery Our founding fathers are probably rolling over in their graves. My God what a mess ! Speechless. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 05:03 PM	#10
nerkvcbtre Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 519 Senior Member	Oh, by sustainable development, they mean developing a sustainable police state and control grid. Yes, they are trying to redefine the word sustainable currently to include taxability in it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 05:29 PM	#11
evammaUselp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 427 Senior Member	It's not sustainable unless some bureaucrat is managing your life from some cubicle. They want everyone living in high rise studio apartments in compacted cities without cars or land/home ownership. They only want mega corporations farming GMO crops so they can profit off you that way, and then keep you on their bullshit "healthcare" system. It's all one control grid, and we are to be farmed. Pay very close attention to the ICLEI list since even if you live in a rural town, if they have control over a county, they are coming after you! I just went and read more then I wanted to. Im done reading for the day. I think I just died and went to hell. I'll be in a state of catatonic shock until further notice. Beyond speechless now. Feel ill and need to barf first. Shami, omg. Heaven help us all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-20-2012, 06:28 PM	#12
nerkvcbtre Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 519 Senior Member	I think I just died and went to hell. I'll be in a state of catatonic shock until further notice. Beyond speechless now. Feel ill and need to barf first. Shami, omg. Heaven help us all. The Earth as a small island in the North Atlantic This is an announcement from genetic control: It is my sad duty to inform you of a four foot restriction on Humanoid height. Extract from coversation of joe ordinary in local puborama I hear the directors of genetic control have been buying all the Properties that have recently been sold, taking risks oh so bold. Its said now that people will be shorter in height, They can fit twice as many in the same building site. (they say its alright), Beginning with the tenants of the town of harlow, In the interest of humanity, theyve been told they must go, Told they must go-go-go-go. Sir john de pebble of united blacksprings international I think Ive fixed a new deal A dozen properties - well buy at five and sell at thirty four, Some are still inhabited, Its time to send the winkler to see them, Hell have to work some more. Memo from satin peter of rock development ltd. With land in your hand, youll be happy on earth Then invest in the church for your heaven. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Piediahef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	time is shorter then we all would like to think . Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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wallyfindme Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 609 Senior Member	duplicate thread? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DuePew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	Yes. http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...-100-varieties Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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