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Old 02-08-2012, 03:53 PM   #1
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Default Ron Paul and Delegates: The ONLY thing that matters - Official Thread
I was looking around for current Delegate counts and found this link:

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates


Here is the breakdown so far:

Romney - 91
Santorum - 44
Gingrich - 29
Paul - 8


AZ is coming up, along with other States RP does well in. 1144 delegates are needed to secure the nomination. It is still early, but Paul needs to ramp up his delegate count quickly.

There are still 46 delegates that havent voted in all of the previous debates. So these are still up in the air.

California has 172 delegates. How many will support RP?
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:11 PM   #2
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Curious on when the delegates actually get distributed, if they can get allocated in numbers different than whats reported at the time of the primary or caucus?

Don't delegates have to go back at a later date to be counted? So could Ron pick up more delegates at a later date than whats reported on the day of the election?
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:17 PM   #3
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Here's another thing: if no one gets more than 50% of the delegates, then the delegates are free to vote for anyone they want.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:31 PM   #4
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In Nevada after the caucus votes are cast then caucus participants can nominate precinct delegates from

the caucus goers. These precinct delegates attend the county convention where the state delegates are

elected. At the state convention the final delegates are chosen. These delegates will go on to the

national convention. If only Ron Paul supporters were nominated it is entirely possible all the delegates

will go to Ron Paul. Or the reverse could be true for another candidate.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:49 PM   #5
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how about exit polling ?

that has been one of the indicators in previous elections of vote-fixing.

what i see for Ron Paul (massive enthusiasm) and the vote results are REAL different - which makes me suspect that the vote is being Diebold-ed.

but i also know there's a lot of Repug sheep that will vote for Romney (or, apparently, Super-Sputum.)
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:13 PM   #6
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The caucus votes don't necessarily determine which candidate will get the delegates. It is the caucus

attendees that stay to the bitter end and get themselves elected who ultimately determine which

candidate wins the delegates. The Ron Paul supporters are well organized and will get as many of their

people elected to go to the conventions as possible. I was a delegate for Nye County in Nevada in 2008

and saw this happen. We (Ron Paul) out numbered the other candidates at the state convention.

I don't know how the non-binding primary state delegates are selected.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:00 PM   #7
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The caucus votes don't necessarily determine which candidate will get the delegates. It is the caucus

attendees that stay to the bitter end and get themselves elected who ultimately determine which

candidate wins the delegates. The Ron Paul supporters are well organized and will get as many of their

people elected to go to the conventions as possible. I was a delegate for Nye County in Nevada in 2008

and saw this happen. We (Ron Paul) out numbered the other candidates at the state convention.

I don't know how the non-binding primary state delegates are selected.
yep, I stayed to the sweet end and saw to it that Ron Paul got 2 delegates out of 3 for our precinct. Surprisingly Rick Santorum polled really well amongst old-line Religious Republicans. They like his strong in your face we'll tell them the proper way to live and think message. Our precinct split 11 for Paul and 8 for Santorum 0 for the other two clowns. So it was only fair to allow 1 delegate for Santorum.
There were 3 young couples there who I'm pretty sure voted for Paul, but after the voting they picked up and left. I guess they don't understand the process.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:53 AM   #8
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bump for those who don't understand how the caucus system works.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:47 AM   #9
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I'm pretty new to how this all works and am interested in this process but would like to learn some more details. What is the process of becoming a delegate? Do I just go to the caucus and wait around until the end to hopefully get voted in as a delegate? I found a forum from 2008 ron paul supporters where someone stated they went to the caucus and voted and then did some sign waiving for a while then went back to the precinct convention to try to become a delegate. He made the point in the thread that they didn't mention RP much and tried to stay on neutral subjects, stating that is key.... Is there something I need to do prior to the caucus? Also, is voter registration a requirement? I would assume so but not sure that they check paperwork etc...?

In other words, can someone walk me through this like I am 12?
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:19 AM   #10
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I'm pretty new to how this all works and am interested in this process but would like to learn some more details. What is the process of becoming a delegate? Do I just go to the caucus and wait around until the end to hopefully get voted in as a delegate? I found a forum from 2008 ron paul supporters where someone stated they went to the caucus and voted and then did some sign waiving for a while then went back to the precinct convention to try to become a delegate. He made the point in the thread that they didn't mention RP much and tried to stay on neutral subjects, stating that is key.... Is there something I need to do prior to the caucus? Also, is voter registration a requirement? I would assume so but not sure that they check paperwork etc...?

In other words, can someone walk me through this like I am 12?
1. pledge of allegiance
2. choose the convener for the caucus who leads the show
3 choose a secretary for the caucus who records the show
4. our caucus had 4 precincts meeting
5. each precinct chooses a chairman, an assistant chairman and a secretary.
6. each candidates pitch letter is read by anyone who volunteers for that specific candidate. (sometimes there is some armtwisting involved so all letters are read)
7. discussion
8. beauty contest vote
9. count the votes and announce the results
10. take a break have some coffee or juice and cookies (this is where those who don't understand the process go home.)
11. sit down and decide who will be the delegates.
12. if there are a lot of people each person who wants to be a delegate has to sign up.
13. a list of delegate candidates is posted and depending on how many delegate seats (x) there are, each person chooses from the list of names and writes (x) names.
14. these lists are tallied and the top (x) names are the delegates (so you have to know who are the people who are for your candidate to choose the right names.)
15. do it over again to choose the alternates.
16. these people go to the county caucus in March


17. at the county level do it all over again and cut the number of delegates down that go to the congressional district conventions which choose 3 delegates for each district to go to the state convention.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:19 AM   #11
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8 seems incredibly shit no?
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:34 PM   #12
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Thank you bigjon so the vote doesn't matter one bit, but those who wait around to become delegates do, and if those knew who are RP supporters they can vote each other in.

So the Zionist supporters who are dead, hospitalized, non existent or just want to go home and watch Faux News how well their candidate did in the election don't have a say...

Great!
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:36 PM   #13
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Thank you bigjon so the vote doesn't matter one bit, but those who wait around to become delegates do, and if those knew who are RP supporters they can vote each other in.

So the Zionist supporters who are dead, hospitalized, non existent or just want to go home and watch Faux News how well their candidate did in the election don't have a say...

Great!
Ron Paul's organization makes sure we know who the people are, that want to be delegates. Four years ago the State Republican Party made up bullshit rules to block the Ron Paul people. I can't exactly remember what they did, but it was pretty damned underhanded. This time there have been new elections to choose party leaders and a lot of that old guard got the boot.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:46 PM   #14
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Ron Paul's organization makes sure we know who the people are, that want to be delegates. Four years ago the State Republican Party made up bullshit rules to block the Ron Paul people. I can't exactly remember what they did, but it was pretty damned underhanded. This time there have been new elections to choose party leaders and a lot of that old guard got the boot.
The status quo GOP in Maine are trying some shit too, they're scared to death that RP is going to take it all and have noted how caucus after caucus is hands down RP. They've even called in extra security "just in case".
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:34 PM   #15
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1. pledge of allegiance
2. choose the convener for the caucus who leads the show
3 choose a secretary for the caucus who records the show
4. our caucus had 4 precincts meeting
5. each precinct chooses a chairman, an assistant chairman and a secretary.
6. each candidates pitch letter is read by anyone who volunteers for that specific candidate. (sometimes there is some armtwisting involved so all letters are read)
7. discussion
8. beauty contest vote
9. count the votes and announce the results
10. take a break have some coffee or juice and cookies (this is where those who don't understand the process go home.)
11. sit down and decide who will be the delegates.
12. if there are a lot of people each person who wants to be a delegate has to sign up.
13. a list of delegate candidates is posted and depending on how many delegate seats (x) there are, each person chooses from the list of names and writes (x) names.
14. these lists are tallied and the top (x) names are the delegates (so you have to know who are the people who are for your candidate to choose the right names.)
15. do it over again to choose the alternates.
16. these people go to the county caucus in March


17. at the county level do it all over again and cut the number of delegates down that go to the state convention.
Can any resident of the district join the caucus?
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:52 PM   #16
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Can any resident of the district join the caucus?
You must be a registered voter it the party conducting the caucus.

You must reside in that precinct where the caucus is held.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:15 PM   #17
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8 seems incredibly shit no?
The NY times OP is misleading.

This is not what the R P campaign is reporting.

Monty and BigJohn comments fit RP reporting.

The media is also studying this and reporting.

Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...012+BW20120208
Ron Paul Secretly Won the Caucuses
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._caucuses.html
Ron Paul Caucus Strategy: The View From Inside Is Looking Up
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1266840.html

Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates TRUTH RULES !

Monty seems to be on top of things here.

The caucus votes don't necessarily determine which candidate will get the delegates. It is the caucus

attendees that stay to the bitter end and get themselves elected who ultimately determine which

candidate wins the delegates. The Ron Paul supporters are well organized and will get as many of their

people elected to go to the conventions as possible. I was a delegate for Nye County in Nevada in 2008

and saw this happen. We (Ron Paul) out numbered the other candidates at the state convention.

I don't know how the non-binding primary state delegates are selected.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:47 PM   #18
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The NY times OP is misleading.

This is not what the R P campaign is reporting.

Monty and BigJohn comments fit RP reporting.

The media is also studying this and reporting.

Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...012+BW20120208
Ron Paul Secretly Won the Caucuses
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._caucuses.html
Ron Paul Caucus Strategy: The View From Inside Is Looking Up
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1266840.html

Ron Paul Winning the Battle for Delegates TRUTH RULES !

Monty seems to be on top of things here.

MAGNES,

How many delegates does RP have for support as of now? According to the NYTimes he has 8, but according to the info you posted here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...s-TRUTH-RULES-!
he has 20+?
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:18 PM   #19
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MAGNES,

How many delegates does RP have for support as of now? According to the NYTimes he has 8, but according to the info you posted here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...s-TRUTH-RULES-!
he has 20+?
I have no idea, they gave a few examples, look at how the media is handling this.

It is way more than 20, looks like it, Slate, Huffingtonpost, Reuters, are not
disputing those few examples but seem to be warning everyone about how sneaky
Ron Paul is being.

Monty and BigJohn posts reveals they know the process and have a much better handle on this.

Midnight Rambler was involved too, he knows things, he opened this
OP which I totally missed.

Midnight Rambler.
Ron Paul secretly won the caucuses

Remember folks, format matters.

" Ron Paul got ALL 13. "

NYTimes, don't expect much from them.

Slate wants you to know Ron Paul is a sneaky fellow. Beware.

This time there have been new elections to choose party leaders
and a lot of that old guard got the boot.
They are working it aren't they, dirty bastards.
What can they do to Ron Paul if his delegate strategy/power is strong ?
Any tricks.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:38 PM   #20
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Any vote for anyone beside Ron Paul is a vote for WWWIII. These people who voted for Santorum only heard his strong moral Christian message. Most of the people at our caucus are in the Israel is the only democracy in the M.E. and our special friend, that we have to support, camp.

I wish I had thought to remind them that they are voting for more war, a very un-Christian thing to do, during the discussion period at the caucus, but I didn't.
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