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**Phighicle** · 12-19-2011, 03:55 PM

The Canadian Long-gun registry is dead. We have a long way to go for total firearm freedom; but it is a start.

http://www.scrappedtheregistry.ca

http://www.montrealgazette.com/busin...701/story.html

**ordercigsnick** · 12-19-2011, 05:51 PM

Way to go keep up the fight!

**km2000** · 12-19-2011, 06:31 PM

Good deal you now have much more firearms freedom than California.

Now hopefully someday you will be like Texas or Idaho.

**PheliarearY** · 12-19-2011, 07:06 PM

Thanks Steyr. Is this official?

EDIT - It's not scrapped yet. It's shelved until holidays are over. A lot can chance between now and then.

**Phighicle** · 12-19-2011, 07:25 PM

Thanks Steyr. Is this official?

EDIT - It's not scrapped yet. It's shelved until holidays are over. A lot can chance between now and then.

It needs to go through the [Conservative-controlled] Senate and it needs Royal ascent. Maybe a stop by the Supreme Court too

**gamecasta** · 12-19-2011, 07:26 PM

Do you still have the equivalent of our 4473? If so, you only THINK the registry is dead... as do most in the US.

**Phighicle** · 12-19-2011, 07:29 PM

Do you still have the equivalent of our 4473? If so, you only THINK the registry is dead... as do most in the US.

You will have to explain a bit more. What is a 4473?

**PheliarearY** · 12-19-2011, 07:45 PM

When I can go buy a long gun with cash, without any other paperwork being filled out, then I know it's scrapped.

**Phighicle** · 12-19-2011, 08:09 PM

When I can go buy a long gun with cash, without any other paperwork being filled out, then I know it's scrapped.

Don't worry, Awoke, it will happen soon enough. I hope I do not eat my words in the future; but I'm sure it's gone.

**ordercigsnick** · 12-19-2011, 08:10 PM

Any thing is possible if ones lifetime is long enough!

**gamecasta** · 12-19-2011, 08:20 PM

You will have to explain a bit more. What is a 4473?

The 4473 is the form we fill out to get permission to buy a gun from a dealer. It records all your personal information and the type, model and SN of the gun among other things. Then the dealer calls in to ask if you are OK to buy the gun. They promise to disregard all that information after the sale is complete, but you know exactly how that goes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473

**blackjackblax** · 12-19-2011, 08:55 PM

i do notice a trend - that the states with the biggest Jew populations have the strictest gun laws (Calif. Chicago/Illinois, New York) ... with the exception of Florida - i have the impression that they have more gun freedom than the other 3 ... and they have mucho de Jews.

in any case, Congratulations Canada !

**Obebtetibre** · 12-19-2011, 10:57 PM

The laws for guns are only for those who are willing to give up their freedom.......those who believe in liberty and freedom will always have gun because the poleticians only listen to those holding one...............but of course if I were to own a fiream, it or they, would not be in my property.

**KuRoregioNka** · 12-20-2011, 12:55 AM

i do notice a trend - that the states with the biggest Jew populations have the strictest gun laws (Calif. Chicago/Illinois, New York) ... with the exception of Florida - i have the impression that they have more gun freedom than the other 3 ... and they have mucho de Jews.

in any case, Congratulations Canada !

i posted a chart once on gim1 (long since lost it), that those states with highest jew populations have the most draconian firearms laws. it was really creepy, it stood out at you. wished i had saved it.

**Grieryaliny** · 12-20-2011, 01:18 PM

I still have a hard time believing it.

Looking hard for the fine print....

**Phighicle** · 12-20-2011, 01:39 PM

The 4473 is the form we fill out to get permission to buy a gun from a dealer. It records all your personal information and the type, model and SN of the gun among other things. Then the dealer calls in to ask if you are OK to buy the gun. They promise to disregard all that information after the sale is complete, but you know exactly how that goes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473

I never bought a firearm prior to the registry. Since we need to show your PAL when buying ammo. It should be the same with purchasing a firearm too. All the seller needs to see is the license.

Look at our prohibited list.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possess...sition_Licence

**PheliarearY** · 12-20-2011, 02:47 PM

I still have a hard time believing it.

Looking hard for the fine print....

It still hasn't happened yet.

**Grieryaliny** · 12-20-2011, 04:07 PM

I know it hasnt "passed" yet, but i think it is as good as passed.

I'm sure after they pass it they will go through a gun cataloge and re-classify anything that looks "dangerous" or something like that.

**soyclocky** · 12-20-2011, 04:19 PM

Canada has weird laws. We can't own and AK, but we can own an ACR.

**Phighicle** · 12-20-2011, 05:25 PM

The Cdn firearms laws are nothing short of bizarre. It is the RCMP who determines what is allowed or not. They determine what is restricted or not.

A restricted firearm is the scary firearm, and must be registered. Although the long-gun registration is good-as-gone, these will continue to be. Examples are:

ar-15.jpg

and

300px-HKUSP.png

Ironically, these will soon not have to be registered and will be able to buy very easily

Swiss_Arms.jpg

and

dlask.png

I personally legally own the shotgun.

12-19-2011, 03:55 PM	#1
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Scrapped! The Canadian Long-gun registry is dead. We have a long way to go for total firearm freedom; but it is a start. http://www.scrappedtheregistry.ca http://www.montrealgazette.com/busin...701/story.html Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 05:51 PM	#2
ordercigsnick Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 335 Senior Member	Way to go keep up the fight! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 06:31 PM	#3
km2000 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Good deal you now have much more firearms freedom than California. Now hopefully someday you will be like Texas or Idaho. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 07:06 PM	#4
PheliarearY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 581 Senior Member	Thanks Steyr. Is this official? EDIT - It's not scrapped yet. It's shelved until holidays are over. A lot can chance between now and then. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 07:25 PM	#5
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Thanks Steyr. Is this official? EDIT - It's not scrapped yet. It's shelved until holidays are over. A lot can chance between now and then. It needs to go through the [Conservative-controlled] Senate and it needs Royal ascent. Maybe a stop by the Supreme Court too Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 07:26 PM	#6
gamecasta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	Do you still have the equivalent of our 4473? If so, you only THINK the registry is dead... as do most in the US. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 07:29 PM	#7
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Do you still have the equivalent of our 4473? If so, you only THINK the registry is dead... as do most in the US. You will have to explain a bit more. What is a 4473? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 07:45 PM	#8
PheliarearY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 581 Senior Member	When I can go buy a long gun with cash, without any other paperwork being filled out, then I know it's scrapped. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 08:09 PM	#9
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	When I can go buy a long gun with cash, without any other paperwork being filled out, then I know it's scrapped. Don't worry, Awoke, it will happen soon enough. I hope I do not eat my words in the future; but I'm sure it's gone. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 08:10 PM	#10
ordercigsnick Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 335 Senior Member	Any thing is possible if ones lifetime is long enough! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 08:20 PM	#11
gamecasta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	You will have to explain a bit more. What is a 4473? The 4473 is the form we fill out to get permission to buy a gun from a dealer. It records all your personal information and the type, model and SN of the gun among other things. Then the dealer calls in to ask if you are OK to buy the gun. They promise to disregard all that information after the sale is complete, but you know exactly how that goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 08:55 PM	#12
blackjackblax Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	i do notice a trend - that the states with the biggest Jew populations have the strictest gun laws (Calif. Chicago/Illinois, New York) ... with the exception of Florida - i have the impression that they have more gun freedom than the other 3 ... and they have mucho de Jews. in any case, Congratulations Canada ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-19-2011, 10:57 PM	#13
Obebtetibre Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	The laws for guns are only for those who are willing to give up their freedom.......those who believe in liberty and freedom will always have gun because the poleticians only listen to those holding one...............but of course if I were to own a fiream, it or they, would not be in my property. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 12:55 AM	#14
KuRoregioNka Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	i do notice a trend - that the states with the biggest Jew populations have the strictest gun laws (Calif. Chicago/Illinois, New York) ... with the exception of Florida - i have the impression that they have more gun freedom than the other 3 ... and they have mucho de Jews. in any case, Congratulations Canada ! i posted a chart once on gim1 (long since lost it), that those states with highest jew populations have the most draconian firearms laws. it was really creepy, it stood out at you. wished i had saved it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 01:18 PM	#15
Grieryaliny Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	I still have a hard time believing it. Looking hard for the fine print.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 01:39 PM	#16
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	The 4473 is the form we fill out to get permission to buy a gun from a dealer. It records all your personal information and the type, model and SN of the gun among other things. Then the dealer calls in to ask if you are OK to buy the gun. They promise to disregard all that information after the sale is complete, but you know exactly how that goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473 I never bought a firearm prior to the registry. Since we need to show your PAL when buying ammo. It should be the same with purchasing a firearm too. All the seller needs to see is the license. Look at our prohibited list..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possess...sition_Licence Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 02:47 PM	#17
PheliarearY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 581 Senior Member	I still have a hard time believing it. Looking hard for the fine print.... It still hasn't happened yet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 04:07 PM	#18
Grieryaliny Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	I know it hasnt "passed" yet, but i think it is as good as passed. I'm sure after they pass it they will go through a gun cataloge and re-classify anything that looks "dangerous" or something like that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 04:19 PM	#19
soyclocky Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 371 Senior Member	Canada has weird laws. We can't own and AK, but we can own an ACR. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-20-2011, 05:25 PM	#20
Phighicle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	The Cdn firearms laws are nothing short of bizarre. It is the RCMP who determines what is allowed or not. They determine what is restricted or not. A restricted firearm is the scary firearm, and must be registered. Although the long-gun registration is good-as-gone, these will continue to be. Examples are: ar-15.jpg and 300px-HKUSP.png Ironically, these will soon not have to be registered and will be able to buy very easily Swiss_Arms.jpg and dlask.png I personally legally own the shotgun. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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