[FoetAgerhot46]

what dont they own are controll

[foonlesse]

I wonder what the Jews are eating in Israel?

A little off topic but this reminds me of a Seinfeld episode. He had a new suede jacket and ruined it by going out in a snowstorm. He made a comment about "How do cows avoid this problem?" Always thought it was funny because suede comes from pig and not cows.

If you think they cannot be that stupid consider JELLO. It is a product that is extracted from the hide of pigs (maybe it's removal is what makes suede?). I expect they consider JELLO to be kosher (but don't know for sure).

[aburva.org]

at one point we had over 300 hogs we could not make money and feed them .

Years back a high school classmate (came from a large hog raising family) told me how he had calculated that he could buy an auger truck and run to town cheaper than he could grind and mix his own feed on the farm. Several years later I ran into him again and he had gotten out of hogs ... couldn't figure out how to make a profit.

It is predictable. When you can only stay in business because of the money then you are involved in a system that is designed to fail (or make money for the banker). It follows from this that if you do not do things for money then you cannot lose.

[VQdeochratis]

Just looked at a Jello package and you're right palani, both the gelatin & pudding have the kosher "K" symbol on the front!

[AngelinaLip]

Just looked at a Jello package and you're right palani, both the gelatin & pudding have the kosher "K" symbol on the front!

Hormel has a gelatin plant in Davenport and another in Dubuque. I did a short job for the one in Dubuque one time.

[UMATURLIN]

Years back a high school classmate (came from a large hog raising family) told me how he had calculated that he could buy an auger truck and run to town cheaper than he could grind and mix his own feed on the farm. Several years later I ran into him again and he had gotten out of hogs ... couldn't figure out how to make a profit.

It is predictable. When you can only stay in business because of the money then you are involved in a system that is designed to fail (or make money for the banker). It follows from this that if you do not do things for money then you cannot lose.

I've been reading a couple of books by Joel Salatin who runs Polyface farms who claims to be doing quite well farming by direct marketing to consumers and restaurants. He raises grass fed beef supplements them with kelp and rotational grazing no antibiotics or wormers. He also runs chickens on pasture as well as rabbits. Whatever feed he needs is non gmo. Claims that by cutting out the middle man by selling retail he has been successful.

Short vid.

[aabbaDE]

Gelatin is typically the product of cows hooves. It can be kosher when taken only from cows/beef.

[M1iFiNmC]

Claims that by cutting out the middle man by selling retail he has been successful.

That would be the only way to go about it. Farmers are said to be the only manufacturers who buy retail and sell wholesale. You only do this until the money runs out or you can figure out how to cut corners.

If I have an advantage it would be having been raised on a farm and seeing how my parents cashflowed. They fed the Holsteins well and milked twice daily. The sows got a warm meal every time the dairy cow took a dump. The chickens followed up behind the sows and picked out what was left. Feed once and take advantage of it 3 times.

Now the hog producers have figured out that pigs like to eat maggots. They have also figure out that maggots like to eat hog manure. Seems to be a pretty tightly closed system to not have something go wrong with it in the long run.

[Ervins Dervish]

Gelatin is typically the product of cows hooves. It can be kosher when taken only from cows/beef.

http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm

The most controversial certification is the K, a plain letter K found on products asserted to be kosher. A letter of the alphabet cannot be trademarked, so any manufacturer can put a K on a product, even without any supervision at all. For example, Jell-O brand gelatin puts a K on its product, even though every reliable Orthodox authority agrees that Jell-O is not kosher.

[RicardoHun]

A little off topic but this reminds me of a Seinfeld episode. He had a new suede jacket and ruined it by going out in a snowstorm. He made a comment about "How do cows avoid this problem?" Always thought it was funny because suede comes from pig and not cows.

If you think they cannot be that stupid consider JELLO. It is a product that is extracted from the hide of pigs (maybe it's removal is what makes suede?). I expect they consider JELLO to be kosher (but don't know for sure).

Suede leather is made from the underside of the skin, primarily lamb, although goat, pig, calf and deer are commonly used. Splits from thick hides of cow and deer are also sueded, but, due to the fiber content, have a shaggy nap.