[errolurberozy]

the thing I find most interesting about Christmas is the almost universal conspiracy of lies that ALL PARENTs participate in to deceive their children. And they do it for many years until the children discover there is no Santa claus. Of course the parents are really saying their is no satan but the point remains. Billions of adults go to great lengths to lie and deceive their children about where their "presents" come from. It's like a global conspiracy that every one participates in.

Why they give the presents and allow someone else to take the credit from them selves is something I don't understand but I think it's troubling if (IF) children work out for themselves that ALL the parents in the western world have been lying to them. People might not think its a big deal on the surface but if you think a little deeper on it it's pretty bad IMO.

Of course I've been buying gifts, but they are from me. I've told my family I won't be doing this after this year. I've threatened several times in the past and Easter is one I don't do anymore. It causes a bit of agro though.

I'm with you. I have a four month old and no way am I telling her the Santa Claus bullshit. You would not believe the grief I have gotten already..for NOT lying to my daughter? That is an argument I will take any time.

[Olympicdreams]

lapis,
I watch that movie (Bad Santa) every year around Christmas... it's a comedy classic with such a vulger and crass sense of humor that it repulses at the same time it makes you laugh out loud!
I have a bit different take on it, though... from the "destruction of western civilization/making white men look bad" angle.
In my mind, the real "heart" of the movie is the redemption of Billy Bob Thorton's character - the transformation he undergoes from a mean, heartless drunk and thief into someone who develops compassion and love for something other than booze and big butts. If anything, the movie treats other races with stereotyped contempt... the mall cop is a corrupt thieving black man, the black midget elf and his mexican girlfriend are greedy thieving murderers, the arab guy in the bar is a repressed homosexual who wants to rape Santa in the parking lot, and the fat black woman is a kinky slut who likes anal sex in mall dressing rooms. By the end of the movie, the only characters you really care about are the bad santa character, the kid, and the white half-jewish woman who loves Christmas and Santa.
One other thing... I like the fact that the movie goes on about "Christmas", not "The Holidays" like most BS hollywood movies these days, and how the kid reads from the biblical Christmas story in part of the movie. I'm not Christian, but I can see VERY clearly how mainstream culture is trying to remove awareness of things like this, and in the process DIRECTLY attacking western culture and the Christian values it is founded upon.
Just my .02... not really saying you're wrong, just another take on it from a different perspective.

you need to stop thinking for yourself and get in line

[P9CCd35R]

since Christmas is Jesus' birthday - did anybody make him a cake with 2011 candles ?

that would be hard to blow out.

[adesseridopaw]

lapis,
I watch that movie (Bad Santa) every year around Christmas... it's a comedy classic with such a vulger and crass sense of humor that it repulses at the same time it makes you laugh out loud!

That's for sure! Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to stop watching it at least once every other year for a good laugh.

I have a bit different take on it, though... from the "destruction of western civilization/making white men look bad" angle.
In my mind, the real "heart" of the movie is the redemption of Billy Bob Thorton's character - the transformation he undergoes from a mean, heartless drunk and thief into someone who develops compassion and love for something other than booze and big butts. Yeah that is the main theme of the movie, but still, there's not one white person who is good right from the beginning and doesn't need to go through redemptive experiences in order to be a half-decent human being.

If anything, the movie treats other races with stereotyped contempt... the mall cop is a corrupt thieving black man, the black midget elf and his mexican girlfriend She ain't no Mexican, she's an Asian! Can't you tell by the sneer (exaggerated to perfection by actress Lauren Tom)? That's the look of many older Asian women immigrants, like formerly poor Southeastern ones from Vietnam who make no bones about judging people by their appearance, especially if their appearance lacks obvious signs of designer symbols.

and the fat black woman is a kinky slut who likes anal sex in mall dressing rooms. That's a white woman in the dressing room judging from what you can see from her ankles down, not Opal the black prostitute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qocqqifz6_s

One other thing... I like the fact that the movie goes on about "Christmas", not "The Holidays" like most BS hollywood movies these days, and how the kid reads from the biblical Christmas story in part of the movie. Yes, the doofus white kid with the red afro and occasional rivers of green snot streaming down his nose is shown reading the Biblical verses in the Advent calender.

I think this is similar to "guilt by association"? I.E., only an idiotic white person like this can be shown to care about the Bible in mainstream entertainment run by Talmud-thumpers.




Just my .02... not really saying you're wrong, just another take on it from a different perspective. I know! I enjoyed responding to your take.

But it really gets my hackles up that everything I watch, read, or see has some corrupting element in it. I guess I just have to be resigned to the fact that all modern entertainment is this way, and because I'm critical, I'll always notice these elements.



KID
How'd you get sick?

WILLIE
I loved a woman who wasn't clean.

KID
Mrs. Santa?

WILLIE
No, her sister.

[Gilowero]

since Christmas is Jesus' birthday - did anybody make him a cake with 2011 candles ?

that would be hard to blow out.

You talking about the guy who can walk on water?