[ceagstuntee]

http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-pr...video_10292011


As the Greek economy succumbs to the debt crisis and individual Greeks are made poorer each day through austerity measures and job cuts, many have begun resorting to traditional bartering as a way to make ends meet and at the same time increase their involvement with neighbors and their general community. Services being bartered include anything from language classes and babysitting to hand cooked meals and daily labor.

It’s huge. Everything we do is without money, like looking after people or making food by ourselves. …

We still have the memory of an agriculture

[ceagstuntee]

The greatest threat to the state is when the people figure out they can exist without them.

[22CreessGah]

One reason for the rise in bartering, is because the ATM's doesn't have cash, shops and restaurants frequently refuses to accept card payments, because they can't spend the bank account balance at other places... People is not trading any longer in avenues where the government is able to tax them effectively. Half the Greek debt may be written off, at this stage it doesn't matter, the Greek gov will not be able to service that either..

[uchetrip]

The greatest threat to the state is when the people figure out they can exist without them.

BINGO!
A profoundly true statement and a quote worthy of a titan!

Now let's see how the bloodsucking bankers try to exact their pound of flesh from the people engaged in mere barter.

[ceagstuntee]

They will try something like this on a grand scale

http://bci.bartercard.com/?page=how-it-works

[uchetrip]

They will try something like this on a grand scale

http://bci.bartercard.com/?page=how-it-works

There has to be a Greek expression that says: "You can take that barter card and shove it where the sun don't shine!"

[Quigoxito]

Trackable and taxable, how quaint...

Before the people accept it in Greece though barter will probably be made illegal and punishable by internment in a forced labor camp, errrmmm I mean jail.

[22CreessGah]

There has to be a Greek expression that says: "You can take that barter card and shove it where the sun don't shine!"

Here is one that may suit the current situation:

TA EXOUME PARAHESEI !!!

(WE HAVE OVER SHITTED IT) !!!

[Asianunta]

The greatest threat to the state is when the people figure out they can exist without them.

Good thing we have the worlds most kick ass Military Police State to protect us from figuring that out.

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Trading typically was done by barter. Money only entered into the picture to balance out the difference in value between trades.

You can imagine a trade worth $100,000 to one trader and $95,000 to another. The difference of $5 grand would be in money from one trader to the other.

Obviously if there is a tax involved government would much rather tax the entire $100,000 rather than just $5,000.

[DoctoBuntonTen]

Obviously if there is a tax involved government would much rather tax the entire $100,000 rather than just $5,000. "We want it all - just give it to us. (Gawd's ***chosen*** deserve no less)"

[cl004]

The greatest threat to the state is when the people figure out they can exist without them.

Awesome TT, I'm adding that to my Signature line if you don't mind?

[ultramDoctoo]

The primary motive of the 99% segment of the Greeks is to use money in a way to beat the taxation the government is unfairly trying to burden them with. I am not sure if they have an alternative system of exchange (other than barter) or if there is no system and they adapt themselves individually to ad hoc deals. But this story resurrected an idea in my memory that I think would work in Greece or anywhere else:


http://www.michaeljournal.org/localmoney.htm

If the standard for adopting something like this is the desire to show TPTB that we don't need their money--then using something like this would meet that standard. This system would effectively create an alternative money supply that the elite had absolutely no control over--and they would not be able to suppress it if everybody preferred it and used it to effect exchanges of value. It's a great expression of the idea that "We don't need their money or their controls."

In my mind, making TPTB irrelevant has great appeal. We should use their financial crisis as an opportunity to shake free of them entirely and restore a sane economic system as well as a healthy political system.


Hatha

[Elitiachirl]

The greatest threat to the state is when the people figure out they can exist without them.

I didn't come up with that one so to me is only "pretty" good................LOLLLLLLLL love it Titan.........

"Money is only a leash that they put around your neck in order to control you"... Ponce

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"Money is only a leash that they put around your neck in order to control you"... Ponce

I made it to a fellows hearing this week. Had something to do with liens being put on a farmers crop. He had gotten the land at a tax lien sale and the actual owner was taking exception to him pulling crop out.

The statement was made by the complaining party, " *** has made himself judgement proof. I have to hire an attorney to get the lien removed and I have no way of making *** pay. Am asking the court to put him in contempt for continuing to file these liens."

Being judgment proof is a necessity. If you have anything it will be taken. Same reason North Carolina is advising their policy men to put their property in someone elses name.

[boffincash]

Before there was money James Earl Jones would just come and collect you, to build pyramids.

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[SigNeewfoew]

Yup, don't get caught taking a bite of an unpaid sandwich on their watch...

I heard there's a new branch being sworn in...called Book's Brigade. All Book's Brigade officers do is just go around to every grocery store and watch the sandwich isle. Pretty good gig on our tax dime, easy money. Good benefits too.

LOL, and off duty off the book income is made working for HOAs looking out for brown lawns.