[TNgqZhLR]

Sometimes I just can't help myself, especially regarding medical issues. A friend of mine's 6 year old son has had many illnesses, bad colds all throughout the school year. It could be that the school isn't the cleanest, it could be an environmental irritant, could be overuse of antibiotics, could be a number of things. It's my understanding that he did not get sick over the summer break.

Now school has started again and he got another cold and the doctor has scheduled him for removal of tonsils, adenoids AND sinus surgery all at once. It just seems so extreme and such a painful thing to put a child through. From everything I've heard about sinus surgery, it often doesn't improve things. I'm trying to convince her to at least be more conservative and do the tonsil/adenoid surgery first and see if it improves things. I know this is not what she wants to hear and I feel like I'm not being a supportive friend but I can't help myself.

I had sinus issues 8 or so years ago and they did a ct scan and wanted to do surgery but I chickened out and my problems went away on their own. I believe when I started taking garlic regularly and probiotics. So, is it best to keep your mouth shut and support a person in this situation or risk damaging the friendship by telling him/her how you really feel about what they're about to do? What would you do? What are your thoughts on such a painful surgery for frequent colds?

[Hedkffiz]

Does the kid have a dad? Women really shouldn't be calling the shots imo.

But erm, yea speak up.

[Markdogas]

Does the kid have a dad? Women really shouldn't be calling the shots imo.

That's right. Back in the kitchen!

[Hedkffiz]

I just think men are better at making the tough calls. Of course some (Jew?) doctor wants to do all he can. I'm sure this woman is a typical emotional mess that thinks dr.'s have all the answers. Where is the level headed man of the family?

[Twendypreency]

You offered a resonable suggestion rather then hacking the kids nose to pieces.

To quote my momma.

And education is what you get when you do listen............and experience is what you get when you dont.


Its looks like your friend is going to get the later

[TNgqZhLR]

That's right. Back in the kitchen!

LOL!

Yes, he has a dad. I'm not sure what his opinion is. I think people put so much trust in the medical establishment and of course she's going to trust a doctor versus me. A while back I told her to take him for accupuncture or to a naturopath/herbalist. She didn't. I just know from my experience that alternative medicine does work better. It's difficult to convince people of that.

The more I think about it, it's probably a bacterial infection that's become resistant to antibiotics and beefing up the immune system with vit C and D would probably resolve the problem. Maybe echinacea.

[Twendypreency]

Its Just that we have been duped into thinking the only way you can be" healed" is via a pill or if something is cut.

There is no respect that if the body is given ample rest and cleansing nurtrients it can virtually heal itself.

[GoodLover]

You know sunshine05, this is a tough situation, and I had a similar one.


My girlfriend's friend's husband got cancer recently, about a year ago. I immediately starting touting a bunch of anti-cancer resources I have on the web (and some have been applied in real life) and offered to help them try several of the alternative treatments. My girlfriend was not supportive of suggesting the alternative treatment at all, and supported their decision to go the hospital route. That man is now dead, less than one year later. He passed away just a few weekends ago.

The whole time, anytime I brought up ANY alternative cancer treatments, she basically yelled at me. She didn't want to hear it. Instead she decided to support the friend in a treatment that has less than 10% success rate.

I don't understand why they have to make ME feel like a huge dick for suggesting that they try to get treatment outside of an establishment that kills 90% of the people who go through it. Just pisses me right off that *I* am the bad guy here. What I said would happen is exactly what ended up happening.

[derinasderun]

That's right. Back in the kitchen!

[TNgqZhLR]

You know sunshine05, this is a tough situation, and I had a similar one.


My girlfriend's friend's husband got cancer recently, about a year ago. I immediately starting touting a bunch of anti-cancer resources I have on the web (and some have been applied in real life) and offered to help them try several of the alternative treatments. My girlfriend was not supportive of suggesting the alternative treatment at all, and supported their decision to go the hospital route. That man is now dead, less than one year later. He passed away just a few weekends ago.

The whole time, anytime I brought up ANY alternative cancer treatments, she basically yelled at me. She didn't want to hear it. Instead she decided to support the friend in a treatment that has less than 10% success rate.

I don't understand why they have to make ME feel like a huge dick for suggesting that they try to get treatment outside of an establishment that kills 90% of the people who go through it. Just pisses me right off that *I* am the bad guy here. What I said would happen is exactly what ended up happening.

I'm sorry to hear that. I'll bet he would still be alive and healing if he had followed your advice. I've had similar experiences. What got me into natural treatments to begin with was my husband had a large gallstone many years ago, probably close to 10 years ago and I started researching online and found curezone and he started doing liver/gallbladder flushes. It changed our lives because he was able to avoid surgery and he still has his gallbladder. He has mild attacks on occasion but herbs and flushes resolve them. From that time on, we have both been huge proponents of natural treatments and we're both much more aware of what we put in our bodies. That's why I hate that my friend is going to put her poor child through so much. It just seems so drastic.

[Annevecenqp]

I will relate my experiences and my attitudes concerning the situation to a friend--but the choice of what to do is always theirs. I won't judge their choices once they are made. I don't do 'I told you so.' People have to live their own lives--make their own mistakes--even if they are life and death choices. I'm willing to consider a wider range of choices about my health because I'm aware of more options than most people. I've transcended my brainwashing by the Allopathic medical practitioners. I would recommend to people who have to make medical choices to get a background of the institutions they are dealing with--read Eustace Mullins's book Death By Injection. I read it, and it planted big doubts in my mind about everything related to western medicine.


Hatha

[MoreEndotte]

Here are some of my ideas on when to share opinions with other people and when not to: If they make certain choices or have certain ideas which you believe aren't the best and the cause is simply that they don't have enough information, or that they are uninformed, then tell them. If, on the other hand, the reason is not simply a lack of facts but a red-pill-blue-pill reason, then let them continue down the path they are on. The only reason to intervene in that case would be if it takes very little effort from you and could not negatively affect you.

[Kneedycrype]

I have had bad allergies all my life. I couldnt breathe well all through elementary school, all through middle school, and all through high school. Dr's couldnt help, just gave me more poison.

It wasnt until i started doing my own research, that i learned that a large amount of allergies are related to food. It took me about 3 months to determine what foods i was eating that were causing my breathing issues. I have since changed my diet, and can breathe 80% better than i ever have in my whole life. That was over 5 years ago.

I havent gotten sick in that same 5 year period as well. Although not only have i cut out stuff from my diet, but i have added a lot of healthy stuff.

The woman Dr i was going to back then, couldnt believe i was doing that much better. She was convinced that i needed some external pill or shot to solve the problem.

I could have kept this opinion to myself, but i would rather share my experience, and hopefully others can learn from it.


FYI.......

[TNgqZhLR]

Thanks everyone. Hatha - yes, I agree. I would never say "I told you so". I want to be supportive and honestly I normally don't say anything related to trying alternative treatments. It's something I struggle with often though, since it comes up fairly often. I don't want to ever make another parent feel as though they are doing something wrong in the way they choose to care for their kids. And I remember a time when I felt that 100% trust in the medical establishment so I understand it. I guess, if I know for certain that they're going to disregard my advice and opinions, it's probably best to just keep my mouth shut about trying other things. And in this situation, I probably shouldn't have tried to convince her to cancel the sinus surgery. I'll talk to her.