[bestbyV]

TheNocturnalEgyptian's thread today has inspired me... big time! He made a bunch of Orgonite machines, and gave them away at a healthfood store.

While I'm the LAST person on this forum to have any measure of superstition or wierd "universal" type beliefs, I absolutely KNOW that "what goes around comes around" is some kind of VERY REAL universal law. I've seen it in effect too many times to NOT be a believer!

With that idea (what the Eastern religions call "Karma") in mind, I'd like to hopefully start a new forum "trend" or meme, if you will... the "Karma" giveaway.

I'm giving away two (2) 1-gram fractionals of 99.9% fine silver to someone in this thread. I'll decide who within a few days, then mail it. I haven't yet decided how I'll decide who gets it, I might roll dice, throw a dart, or just give it to whoever makes me laugh my ass off first. We'll see.

For the record, I'm hoping that other forum members will find some useful stuff they have that isn't doing them any good, and give it away to other forum members in a similar fashion.. Let's see how this thing turns out.

Be well, my friends... this forum has given me a lot, here's giving one of you something back!

-Gaillo

[Rufio]

*is flattered*

I hope the metals go out to somebody that deserves them. My vote is to send one of them to the Outlaw Josey Whales.



Gaillo the Gifter

[giftplas]

OK then. Off to a an androgynous start. Yet still illuminating if you have the time to waste:

(aka CC's PM/OWS/CME Orgonite video)
Youtube: Culture Club - Karma Chameleon

[bestbyV]

Gaillo the Gifter

Nope. As a general rule, I'm a selfish bastard... I've often said that I'd gladly trade it all for more!

You, Nocturnal, are the real "gifter" - I can't imagine how much time, materials, and money you had invested in all those Orgoneite machines you gave away... truly an awesome and generous thing you did there!

[DeilMikina]

"Bhikkhus, this body is not yours, nor does it belong to others. It is old Kamma, to be seen as generated and fashioned by volition, as something to be felt. Therein, bhikkus, the instructed noble disciple attends carefully and closely to dependent origination itself thus: 'when this exists, that comes to be; with the arising of this, that arises. When this does not exist, that does not come to be; with the cessation of this, that ceases.That is, with ignorance as condition, volitional formations [come to be]; with volitional formations as condition, consciousness...Such is the origin of this whole mass of suffering. But with the remainderless fading away and cessation of ignorance comes cessation of volitional formations; with the cessation of volitional formations, cessation of consciousness...Such is the cessation of this whole mass of suffering." The Connected Discourse of the Buddha, Samyutta Nikaya, II. The Book of Causation(Nidanavagga) 12. Nidanasamyutta

[mashabox]

"All men's souls are immortal, but the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine."

"Be as you wish to seem."

“It is not living that matters, but living rightly.”

“Let him that would move the world first move himself.”

“…all human virtues increase and strengthen themselves by the practice of them.”

“The greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be.”

The shortest and surest way to live with honour in the world, is to be in reality what we would appear to be; and if we observe, we shall find, that all human virtues increase and strengthen themselves by the practice of them.

“He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy.”

"One thing only I know, and that is that I know nothing"

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" The andidote of 50 enemies is 1 friend. "

" You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of the mind next to honor. "


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"the PATRIOT is a scarce man and brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

[tpdirorg]

I have several tonnes of nanothermite, I wish to give away as a gift to tel aviv....

LOL

just kidding, a bit.

anyway, yes I do believe in Karma also.

Great thread, great topic.

[himecthekWiff]

Nope. As a general rule, I'm a selfish bastard... I've often said that I'd gladly trade it all for more!

Um, Gaillo, love, it's all about intention. If you give freely with NO expectation of something in return, that is the key.
If you go and try to manipulate your karma by gifting somebody something by their inspiring post doesn't sound like karma to me.
It sounds like gifting someone something cuz they just gifted you.
NE gave away freely with no expectation in return. That's different.
Hope that makes sense. PS. I don't need any silver.

[leangarance]

Sometimes I really grapple with Karma

As the most wicked individuals devoid of any humanity compassion or restraint have come to be the rulers of the planet.

yet if I was to steal a loaf of bread to feed my family I would be severly punished


something is not working

Rockerfeller,kissinger are going to die peacefully in their sleep when the time comes


I question karma at times......I really do

[himecthekWiff]

Sometimes I really grapple with Karma

As the most wicked individuals devoid of any humanity compassion or restraint have come to be the rulers of the planet.

yet if I was to steal a loaf of bread to feed my family I would be severly punished


something is not working

Rockerfeller,kissinger are going to die peacefully in their sleep when the time comes


I question karma at times......I really do

The physical life is very, very short, like a dot on an infinite line. Think eternity Twister, eternity !

[bestbyV]

Um, Gaillo, love, it's all about intention. If you give freely with NO expectation of something in return, that is the key.
If you go and try to manipulate your karma by gifting somebody something by their inspiring post doesn't sound like karma to me.
It sounds like gifting someone something cuz they just gifted you.
NE gave away freely with no expectation in return. That's different.
Hope that makes sense. PS. I don't need any silver.

Maybe so... but I have zero altruistic tendencies - I like to see other people happy and prospering, so I pretty much ALWAYS get something back when I give. Would I give freely of my time, resources, etc. if I did not know who it was to, and had no expectation of seeing where it was going? Definitely not.

BTW, I suspect TheNocturnalEgyptian had similar motives when he gave away the orgonites, I'm sure he got a great feeling of satisfaction in seeing people appreciate what he had to offer, along with an excellent chance to spread the word about a little-known technology.

My theory? EVERYONE operates out of self-interest, it's just that many people are not conscious and rational about it.

[himecthekWiff]

Maybe so... but I have zero altruistic tendencies - I like to see other people happy and prospering, so I pretty much ALWAYS get something back when I give. Would I give freely of my time, resources, etc. if I did not know who it was to, and had no expectation of seeing where it was going? Definitely not.

BTW, I suspect TheNocturnalEgyptian had similar motives when he gave away the orgonites, I'm sure he got a great feeling of satisfaction in seeing people appreciate what he had to offer, along with an excellent chance to spread the word about a little-known technology.

My theory? EVERYONE operates out of self-interest, it's just that many people are not conscious and rational about it.

Not everyone. Only people that have not learned to let go & get rid of the ego.
Once one releases the ego ...... Then it is completely possible to "operate" with no self-interest.

[bestbyV]

Not everyone. Only people that have not learned to let go & get rid of the ego.
Once one releases the ego ...... Then it is completely possible to "operate" with no self-interest.

That idea (getting rid of the ego) is at the CORE of many new-age and occultic belief systems. As for me, no thanks... if you (properly) define the Ego as one's "sense of self", then getting rid of it is the WET DREAM of globalists, collectivists, and all others who would prey on man's mind by first destroying the individualistic and self-identifying aspects of it.

[Falik]

i think it may be more along the lines that our "pride" makes us think that we are the greatest thing since sliced bread, when in reality, on the grand scale of the infinite, we are mere specks of dust whirling about the galaxy between here and our own demise...

[himecthekWiff]

That idea (getting rid of the ego) is at the CORE of many new-age and occultic belief systems. As for me, no thanks... if you (properly) define the Ego as one's "sense of self", then getting rid of it is the WET DREAM of globalists, collectivists, and all others who would prey on man's mind by first destroying the individualistic and self-identifying aspects of it.

Nothing new agey or occultist about love. That's what the CORE of your karma is . ( or the opposite of love....hate) The whole "karma" thing sounds new agey & occultist to me.
Love is not new agey or occultist. Big tough ego guys can NEVER see /realize this.

[Seilehogshell]

The physical life is very, very short, like a dot on an infinite line. Think eternity Twister, eternity !

But nobody can say with absolute certainy what will become of them.

we just assume they will suffer......we tell ourselves that for our own peace of mind as the possibilty that they got over is just a tad to much for most to bear.

no one that has crossed the great chasm of death ever returned to show the living what becomes of those with intolerate moral behavior

[DeilMikina]

Nothing new agey or occultist about love. That's what the CORE of your karma is . ( or the opposite of love....hate) The whole "karma" thing sounds new agey & occultist to me.
Love is not new agey or occultist. Big tough ego guys can NEVER see /realize this.

Kamma in the sanskrit or karma as it came east is translated directly to mean 'action'. its not new agey, and is the teaching of antiquity as the proof of co dependent origination.

[Fellionas]

I feel like I have always tried to help other people, not wanting anything in return. Not thinking about Karma, it's just something I do because it feels right. I have spent countless hours working on this wrongful conviction, the Cooper case. I don't know the guy and personally won't benefit if he is released but I couldn't sit back and watch the injustice without doing something about it. A lot of people have questioned why I'm so eager to help a stranger but honestly it amazes me that more don't. What happened to him could happen to any one of us and when it happens, we need to expose it.

I'm not sure I believe in karma. There are some pretty evil people who seem to get away with their evilness. The prosecutors and police in the case mentioned above for one.

[Affolfembonge]

i think it may be more along the lines that our "pride" makes us think that we are the greatest thing since sliced bread, when in reality, on the grand scale of the infinite, we are mere specks of dust whirling about the galaxy between here and our own demise...

Yeah, but I would still say that even the most useless eater, a pitiful excuse of man, a badsmelling waste of space, is still a far greater thing than sliced bread... The real miracle is that molecules consisting of mainly carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen and oxygen (stardust) has blended together to make an organism that is able to walk, talk, eat, recreate, think (sometimes even original thoughts), invent... I really don't know how this came about if by chance evolution, or by the hand of some god, which we cannot understand. Or through some other unknown sequence of events. But it is a miracle, and possibly the greatest miracle of the universe!

[doksSirmAdods]