[Siffidiolla]

Bankers know what they are battling. History has proven that they have a plan and have consistently stuck to it. If gold is valuable then they want it all.

There are two systems in the world today: the 10 commandments and the 10 planks. Those in the world who are successful practice the 10 commandments. These same people also want YOU to practice the 10 planks. Very selfish, very self-centered, and for these reasons I expect their practice of their law is flawed in the end analysis.

Maybe you have the perception that you need to have large quantities of gold and silver stashed away in order to switch from the 10 planks to the 10 commandments. I can only give you my opinion that it really takes very little of either metal to meet the minimum requirements of dealing with substance. My holdings of silver consists of $21. With that $21 I established a bond that has been recorded. The bond is used as an offer to contract. I have never had anyone refuse to contract with me on this basis. The only gold I have consists of a $5 gold piece. Society demands that one carry a certain amount of money to not be a vagrant. This singular gold piece fills this need quite well.

Vagrancy laws are unconstitutional however people can still plead guilty if they don't bring up the correct argument.

[prpaims]

Why would the government confiscate gold when it can print as much fiat as they want? Confiscating gold would only expose the money system as a lie. That's the last thing they want.

And if they did confiscate it, what would they do with it? Sell it? For dollars that they can print at will?

the US gov. has already started confiscating gold, via capital controls and asset forfeitures.

when the US gov. does an asset forfeiture, it is "Guilty until Proven Innocent".

the US gov has so many laws that even a "goody-goody" is destined to break some of them.

you can have a foreign bank account, pay taxes on the interest - and the US gov. still INSISTS is has the right to fine you $500K just because you didn't fill out an FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Reporting) form.


metaphor wise, i think there are useful examples from the animal world.

the blue tail lizard, when it loses its tail, the tail starts squirming like CRAZY ! (built in feature). this naturally draws the attention of the predador. the lizard loses 20% of its body mass, perhaps experiences some pain - but remains perfectly healthy & lives to eat bugs another day !

(lots of lizards do this, but the blue tail has the most vigorous detached tail that i have witnessed).


there's nothing wrong with letting the US gov. think they "GOT YOU" when all they got was what you had previously set aside for them to get - as long as the experience doesn't crush your spirit.

[Dwnijzhd]

Vagrancy laws are unconstitutional however people can still plead guilty if they don't bring up the correct argument.

Very true although the average policy-man on the street is still going to enforce it.

Having a speck of gold also has the effect of declaring your lawform (substance) as opposed to fiat (fiction).

One judge instructed the bailiff to turn the defendants pockets inside out, fiat was found and as a result contempt was enforced. To use these arguments you can have no defect in your position.

[Yartonbler]

confiscation of all pm's is a GIVEN. C'mon ,take the red pill ....as the gov grows more thirsty for revenue, like a drung needing a drink, or a junkie needing a fix they will justify ANYTHING to their gain. So, the only question remaining is; will you resist? and if so, HOW?

bump....this is kinda important.

[Edqpdnuu]

No. I don't own gold coins.

In one possible future......

Judge: The court orders you to surrender any and all gold coin in your possession.
Oldmansmith: My coins are "rare and unusual" and minted prior to 1933. The law exempts these coins from siezure.
Judge: I am the law today. Don't quote obscure old statutes at me!
Government lawyer: Your honor, the 'Mona Lisa' or 'The Guttenberg Bible' are 'rare and unusual.' The charged has in his possession gold coins that though old exist in hundreds and thousands of copies extant. These are simple gold disks stamped with an impression, and done so thousands of times to effect virtually identical copies.
Oldmansmith: But but but the 1933 law and subsequent revisions and amendments clearly exempt...
Judge: Nothing that is gold coin lest it be unique, as in the only one and having recognized value to cognoscenti. Your coins are just one of many thousands, hardly rare and hardly unusual.
Oldmansmith: But but...I am a registerd coin collector!
Judge: So is my daughter's music teacher's husband's brother. The order stands! Surrender the coins!

Oldmansmith: Click-Click!

[Dwnijzhd]

Judge: The court orders you to surrender any and all gold coin in your possession. It helps to know what sort of law you are discussing.

The only power a court of Equity has is contempt. They can ask you to do something and put you in contempt for not doing it but they cannot ORDER you to do anything at all.

If what they are asking you to do is impossible then how can you possibly do it?

[Yartonbler]

It helps to know what sort of law you are discussing.

The only power a court of Equity has is contempt. They can ask you to do something and put you in contempt for not doing it but they cannot ORDER you to do anything at all.

If what they are asking you to do is impossible then how can you possibly do it?

the same " laws " that currently incarcerate ed steele.....ficticious? yes, but still enforceable...peeps,we cant ignore this subject, as unpleaseant it is, its comeing!

[Dwnijzhd]

the same " laws " that currently incarcerate ed steele.....ficticious? yes, but still enforceable...peeps,we cant ignore this subject, as unpleaseant it is, its comeing!

If I recall Ed Steele is a lawyer.

If there are any laws holding him incarcerated then he is the author of those laws.

He consented. Not only that but is a dues paying member.

So he is paying dues.

[preachadaq]

back up

[prpaims]

the same " laws " that currently incarcerate ed steele.....ficticious? yes, but still enforceable...peeps,we cant ignore this subject, as unpleaseant it is, its comeing!

it's hard to understand all the laws ... since there's SO FVCKING MANY of them !


in the mean-time ... consideration for one's neighbors, discretion, minimizing contact with police (sometimes that can mean driving VERY carefully) except for friendly contact (when you see them at the store if they're you're neighbors).


in Ed Steele's case, they brought him down. like a bunch of hyenas attacking a good man. it is our loss and we have not defended him.

i suppose to 'defend' somebody in this case - what would that mean - giving them asylum, a place to hide from the crazed US gov. goons ?