[VotsUtegems]

ok, i woke up this morning thinking about this.. having a discussion with unknown others in a dream.. so i'll post it here and get ur opinions on it.. i am NOT posting this to start any arguments or debates.. just quiet opinions on the interpretation of my dream.

ok, basically, i was dreaming about the use of the word 'GOD'. Many people believe that 'God' or 'gods' does not exist.. however, the word 'god' is used daily by everyone i've ever met.. they say.... "i dont believe in 'god'... god-damm.. god bless you.. oh god!.. etc etc.." u get the picture.. so.. if there is no such thing as God or gods.. then how does the name exist? doesnt everything that exists.. have a name? can u think of anything that exists, that DOESNT have a name?? Realistically, if something doesn't exist, how can it have a name?

I've heard the same thing about the Devil.. that 'he/she' doesnt exist etc.. however, lots of bad things are blamed on the Devil (as well as on God), and 'it' has a name.. but if the Devil doesn't exist either.. then how can it have a name?

ok, u say that 'some' people believe in God or the Devil, and that is why it has a name.. but .. on the other hand.. if only things which can be proven to exist have a name.. well u see my dilemna.

Another question along the same thought.. 'who' is responsible for proving that something exists? Is there a committee, a group, a single person, that determines if something actually 'exists' or not? If i find a rock in my yard, and have never seen such a rock before.. who do i submit it to to determine if it: 1. exists, 2. has never been proven to exist before, 3. give it a name??

Makes ya think huh?

[nintenda]

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[carletoxtrs]

for some reason quoteing the Matrix makes me giggle...

[Fluivelip]

Seems that you may have been thinking just a bit too much there, Rosie...

I'm reminded of a long-ago late-night pizza-and-beer session with a handful of other undergrads discussing the concept of "nothingness"-- the quality of nonexsistence.

I contended that the word was a lie and a trap, because as soon as you heard/read the word, you imagined it, and at that point, it "existed" [for you anyway]... and it was no longer "nothingness", but it existed as whatever you imagined it to be.

While I've forgotten the kind of pizza and the brand of the beer, that late-night deep dip into the pool that can generally be described as "meaningless hair-splitting enigma analysis by youngsters" stuck with me for all these years.

Another murky "point" from that session: When you "see" something, are you connected with that object in a meaningful, tangible way? ...even though your eyes are merely proocessing the light reflected from that object. No light, no processing... but does the object cease to exist? Did it exist before the light? How do you know? Now, consider live TV... movies...

Send somebody out for a 36-pack of beer and a couple of pepperoni pizzas... this is gonna take a while...

[VotsUtegems]

very interesting Sin.. i had never thought of that before.. does 'nothing-ness' exist simply because it has a 'name' and in using that name does that give it existence?

i love deep thinking in a hot sweltering day like today, sittin under my cool a/c and contemplating the meaning of life.. laffin

[VotsUtegems]

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[megasprut]

Hehe, yeah... the only way you can prove a negative like that is to derive another conclusion from it and prove its contradiction. But there aren't really any conclusions you can draw from unicorns and dragons existing; there's no "if dragons existed, then 'X'".
What you can do is estimate the likelihood of any of these things existing based on what you know, but still, we see the world through a glass darkly; all sorts of things may have happened that led to the existence of dragons without us knowing about them. For all I know, a dragon might be sitting next to me right now, but I can't detect it!

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[22paseabelldaps]

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[UBJ3kvP1]

I HOPE there is a "Devil" or a hell so many people in this book get to visit him!





lmao Idnew!