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Old 01-19-2010, 02:09 PM   #1
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Default I'm with COCO!
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LA was crazy, with appearances by anyone you could think of, including the man himself, Conan O'Brien. The weather in LA was so bad the Red Cross couldnt set up a booth. So if you were at the LA rally, please find a Haitian relief charity of your choice & donate in Conan's name! Thanks! Watch tonight, it should be AWESOME
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:36 PM   #2
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I think if half of the people who are "with CoCo" had been "watching CoCo," then there never would have been a problem.
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:43 PM   #3
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I think if half of the people who are "with CoCo" had been "watching CoCo," then there never would have been a problem.
Well then that would put him at 2.7 million as he pulls in 2.5 now. The issue is jay leno not truly stepping down giving conan a his time to win a fan base for that time slot. Oh well, he'll leave the network, probably go to fox, and we'll all watch him over there with his own show.

Johnny is rolling in his grave.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:34 PM   #4
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can someone fill me up what's going on exactly?
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:54 AM   #5
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can someone fill me up what's going on exactly?
Well it all started when Conan crashed his Escalade... Oh no wait maybe that's another story.

The full story goes something like this...

It all really started in the early 90s when Johnny Carson was readying to quit the Tonight Show. Now common wisdom would have suggested that the show should have gone to the guy who had been working for NBC on Late Night for 10 years (David Letterman). Seems like that would be the natural progression but instead the network decided to go with Jay Leno a newer face who had guest hosted the Tonight Show a few times. Acrimony followed and Letterman left NBC and went to CBS where he held a respectable lead over the Tonight Show until Jay got an interview with post arrest Hugh Grant since then they've taken an even share of the audiences. Conan was Letterman's replacement which worked cool for a decade or so.

Then five years ago Conan decided he wanted to leave NBC so NBC said no don't go look we want you to stay and plus we don't want to go through the mess we did last time with the hand over of the tonight show so if you stay we will give you the Tonight Show in five years time. Which he agreed to.

Anyway fast forward a few years and NBC prime time dramas suck in the ratings shows like My Own Worst Enemy get canceled before they even finish the first series. So ever clever Jeff Zucker (who was responsible for these **** shows) thinks I have an idea why not pretty much give Jay back his old show but put it on in prime time. It'll cost less than producing all these dramas and will get better ratings. It turned out that Jay's show never did get the better ratings and it was killing all the local affiliates advertising revenue (Local NBC stations run local news at 10/11PM) who started piling the pressure on NBC. So Zucker decides the best bet is lets start running programs again in prime time and move Jay back to 11:35PM. Figure perhaps Conan and Jimmy Fallon probably won't mind us pushing them back and making the Tonight Show the tomorrow show.

Of course the outcome of this is to piss Conan off just as much as Letterman was all those years back but to do it publicly instead. It also makes NBC and Zucker look like a bunch of bumbling idiots. They now essentially have 5 empty time slots a week and nothing constructive or tested to fill it with. Even worse for them Conan most likely will walk to FOX and start his shows 35 minutes before Jay effectively stealing the NBC's entire much sought after 18-35 year old demographic. In other words they shot themselves in the foot in attempting to avoid the mess they created back in '92 they've done it all over again in glorious fashion.

I'm with Conan for the simple fact he stated quite well he wasn't given the chance that Jay was given back in the 90s, had to follow on from a show which was pulling bad lead in ratings and seriously what chance did he have when they've already more or less broadcast the Tonight Show an hour and a half earlier?
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:59 AM   #6
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What I don't understand are the people trying to blame Conan for not immediately beating Letterman in the ratings. As the previous poster said, Leno was losing to Letterman until the Hugh Grant interview.

That was in 1995. Leno lost in the ratings to Letterman for 3 years. Conan's only had 7 months and they're already to give him the boot. It doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:04 AM   #7
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:05 AM   #8
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I like Conan, and to be honest I always thought Leno was a pretty decent guy. But lets face it, he had his shot for 17 years so regardless if NBC wanted him back at his normal time slot or not, he should have retired. Although, I have to say my uncle was the head cameraman for Conan's show for about 4 years, and apparently Conan is an absolute ass off screen to his employees. [thumbdown]
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:23 AM   #9
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I agree, I think Conan is getting a raw deal, Leno should just stfu and retrire, I mean how many more cars does 1 person need..

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I have to agree. Leno hosted a very successful Tonight Show for 17 years, that should be enough. However, it seems that he cannot leave the spotlight. Once NBC canceled his 10 p.m. show, he should have left the network (Fox probably would have offered him a late night show).

I imagine Conan will land on Fox. If he does, I'll be sure to watch him over Leno.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:32 AM   #10
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From what I've heard Leno say, it's NBC that won't let him go, not Leno. He's apparently tried to quit after Conan took over and wants to stop now after this but his buyout is way too high (something reported like $80 million).

Either way, I personally couldn't care about who hosts what. To me the night shows are a dying format anyways, going along the way that laugh track sitcoms had in the 90's. I don't know of anyone who watches these shows, especially since Daily Show/Colbert Report is so popular.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:41 AM   #11
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Either way, I personally couldn't care about who hosts what. To me the night shows are a dying format anyways, going along the way that laugh track sitcoms had in the 90's. I don't know of anyone who watches these shows, especially since Daily Show/Colbert Report is so popular.
That right there. Who cares? They are both loaded. Supposedly Conan is gonna walk away with $40 million, he will be fine.

At least my dad will be happy now that Jay is back, he's one of the old folks. Me I would have to side with Conan, but whatever.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:45 AM   #12
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Either way, I personally couldn't care about who hosts what. To me the night shows are a dying format anyways, going along the way that laugh track sitcoms had in the 90's. I don't know of anyone who watches these shows, especially since Daily Show/Colbert Report is so popular.
But what you said doesn't make any sense. Jay Leno can consistently pull audiences of 5 million+ the Daily Show is lucky to muster 1.5 million. That is why NBC wanted to keep him over Conan because he is guaranteed ratings in that sense they are far from a dying format.
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:35 AM   #13
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NBC has it out for Finland.
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:38 AM   #14
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CONANONFOX.COM has been registeredlooks like he is moving..
Probably just covering their asses before someone else gets it and tries to sell it to them.

I am a huge Conan fan (since the Late Night days) and am 100% with Conan. He is getting a raw deal in all this.

My dad thinks its all just a huge publicity stunt to boost ratings (and it has worked!).
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:40 PM   #15
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If you guys have not been watching the show, he just did a thing where he said "The great thing about hosting the tonight show is.. I can do whatever I want AND THEY pay for it."

So we bring you a new character to the tonight line up, i can't promise its very funny but its pricey

ladies and gentlemen!!



THE BUGATTI VEYHRON MOUSE!


cost! 1.5 mill!


Also zorto.. this isn't no stunt. Its already been confirmed, his last day is friday. He's out, leno is in.


Conan belongs on cable or a network who has a younger audience, I think fox would be perfect.
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