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**#[SoftAzerZx]** · 10-30-2009, 09:29 PM

It's totally OK to cheat on someone if you're drunk. You can't help it. Alcohol comes out of nowhere, mugs you, and runs off with your inhibitions, forcing you to have sex with other men against your will.

You should listen to RainWind he talks from experience many is the weekend he gets drunk and sleeps with other men.

[rofl]

**vdw4Epsi** · 10-30-2009, 09:53 PM

It's totally OK to cheat on someone if you're drunk. You can't help it. Alcohol comes out of nowhere, mugs you, and runs off with your inhibitions, forcing you to have sex with other men against your will.

You raise a good point, for example I used to always take drugs when I went clubbing, so to help stop me taking hard drugs, I stopped going clubbing, as I know otherwise I don't have the self control, so I personally chose to take myself out of the environment.

It's her fault, plus she was shitty enough to not even tell you in person, it might be hard, but move on if you can mate.

**WapSaibiar** · 10-30-2009, 09:56 PM

walk away [yes]

leave her to struggle.with the rest of her single parent life, don't support some other ***** nob puke

**Alina20100** · 10-30-2009, 10:02 PM

hard to believe something that seemed to be going so well is just poof gone. Sucks for the kid though i mean she is 21 still lives at home and part time job, not a good way to raise a kid. and she is def not ready for one yet either.

**refdhbgtd** · 10-30-2009, 10:11 PM

If you know she's done it once, to be honest it's probably been more than once. And will happen again, so walk away.

**Payodcapy542fro** · 10-30-2009, 10:17 PM

........she is 21 still lives at home and part time job, not a good way to raise a kid. and she is def not ready for one yet either.

Maybe she should have thought about this before having unprotected sex with a stranger. It could be worse she could have HIV. Then again so could you, I'd take the advice given and go get tested ASAP.

Personally I'd dump her.

**PekHyvac** · 10-30-2009, 10:22 PM

I don't think it matters how early you test for HIV, infact you need to get tested for many months afterwards anyway.

Obviously don't go having unprotected sex with anyone in the mean time.

As for the girl, we can go giving you advice, but really none of us really know your or her's situation. I think you know what you want to do, you just want to hear one of us say it.

**duawLauff** · 10-30-2009, 10:33 PM

I think if my girlfriend did that to me I wouldn't be able to forgive her, I am pretty sure I would break up with her but I think I would still keep in infrequent contact just to see if she is ok. We can tell you what to do, or what we think we would do, the truth is none of us KNOW what we WOULD do if it happened and it's up to you to make up your mind.

**spapsinee** · 10-30-2009, 10:42 PM

The fact that she emailed you this explains a lot.

**patuvammnogoo** · 10-30-2009, 10:49 PM

You should listen to RainWind he talks from experience many is the weekend he gets drunk and sleeps with other men. [rofl]

Damn right. I'm gay but straight guy. Straight until I'm drunk.

As for STD, that's my biggest fear regarding cheating. Drunken cheating I might be able to forgive, but if she let him do it without a rubber and/or I ended up with a disease... someone would be dying in their sleep.

**autolubitelone** · 10-30-2009, 10:55 PM

This will always be at the back of your mind. Every time she goes out clubbing, the thought of this will pop up in your head. It will be the foundation of your overall resentment towards her. You do not want that kind of stress. There isn't a woman in the world worth that.

Go **** her mom.

**SHpuntik** · 10-30-2009, 10:56 PM

I don't think it matters how early you test for HIV, infact you need to get tested for many months afterwards anyway.

Yes and no.

The ability to control HIV infection is certainly correlated with starting treatment as early as possible. Also, it's important to test the person who is the risk factor, because sometimes it can take up to several weeks to "sero-convert", which means that you may test negative, yet have a small amount of non-replicating virus circulating. Beginning treatment at that stage can often prevent conversion altogether, and effectively "cure" the infection by letting the immune system dispose of the virus before it has a chance to establish latent reservoirs.

Anyway, OP should get tested now, as should the girl. He should also get tested in another couple of weeks, and should be aware of any flu-like symptoms that persist for several days, as this is the common symptom of conversion.

Obviously don't go having unprotected sex with anyone in the mean time.

Very good advice.

**ingeneensueva** · 10-30-2009, 11:04 PM

A friend of mine had sex with a chick that ended up having HIV, she told him the next day (the bitch

)
Afterwards he got a longer HIV prophylaxis treatment and it turned out he didn´t get the virus, i know that it´s easier for women to get the virus than men, but still this is something that should be considered.

**WapSaibiar** · 10-30-2009, 11:06 PM

hard to believe something that seemed to be going so well is just poof gone. Sucks for the kid though i mean she is 21 still lives at home and part time job, not a good way to raise a kid. and she is def not ready for one yet either.

just leave her to **** up its not your problem anymore....

plus you'll be able to laugh at her as you spot her in town looking dowdy and skint pushing a rickety old pram and the baby is crying because its got a shitty nappy that she cant be arsed to change cos she cant cope

that's what I did when I saw my ex after we split and me being told that she had gotten up the duff a few months after we split and the father had ****ed her off sharpish...

stupid cow

**Aozenee** · 10-30-2009, 11:08 PM

well there you go.. consequences of immoral behavior. it's just amazing how fast people go to bed and have sex with complete strangers.. not even rarely but all the time.... sure I'm gonna hear some sort of defense for this irresponsible behavior
I couldn't live with her.. good luck

**Alina20100** · 10-30-2009, 11:43 PM

no she actually isnt trying to defend herself at all, in fact she said she doesnt expect me to forgive her. I know ill be able to move on but it just sucks when you didnt want to, and now have to.

**ingeneensueva** · 10-30-2009, 11:45 PM

Viper no offense, but carry on.
Go out, get wasted, have some fun,..
Everyone can understand that your hurting right now.

**tramadoldiscountes** · 10-31-2009, 12:13 AM

no she actually isnt trying to defend herself at all, in fact she said she doesnt expect me to forgive her. I know ill be able to move on but it just sucks when you didnt want to, and now have to.

At least that's something in her favour, she may have been very ashamed by her actions and e-mailed rather than tell you in person for that reason - but you must both get checked before you decide what is best for both of you.
I would still be dis-inclined to take her back, but that's something the two of you will have to sort out yourselves, depending on what is best for you.
Either way, ignore the extreme comments and I hope things work out, whatever you decide.

**ReggieRed** · 10-31-2009, 12:42 AM

Leave her and never speak to her again

**dubGucKcolo** · 10-31-2009, 12:47 AM

So basically i just found out via email... that my girlfriend of 2yrs cheated on me and got pregnant with some random dude she met at the bar. She claims it was because she was trashed, which i dont doubt cause i know how she gets when she drinks. But ive been going back and forth over this and despite how i felt for her i cant see myself forgiving her for this. I mean even if i did the kid would be a constant reminder of what happened and i wouldnt want the kid to be stuck in the middle of that.

No... if you can't love the child, it's not fair on the child or you to have that resentment. I think your GF is very irresponsible, I mean not even mentioning the risk of disease having unprotected sex.

10-30-2009, 09:29 PM	#41
#[SoftAzerZx] Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 586 Senior Member	It's totally OK to cheat on someone if you're drunk. You can't help it. Alcohol comes out of nowhere, mugs you, and runs off with your inhibitions, forcing you to have sex with other men against your will. You should listen to RainWind he talks from experience many is the weekend he gets drunk and sleeps with other men. [rofl] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 09:53 PM	#42
vdw4Epsi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	It's totally OK to cheat on someone if you're drunk. You can't help it. Alcohol comes out of nowhere, mugs you, and runs off with your inhibitions, forcing you to have sex with other men against your will. You raise a good point, for example I used to always take drugs when I went clubbing, so to help stop me taking hard drugs, I stopped going clubbing, as I know otherwise I don't have the self control, so I personally chose to take myself out of the environment. It's her fault, plus she was shitty enough to not even tell you in person, it might be hard, but move on if you can mate. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 09:56 PM	#43
WapSaibiar Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 370 Senior Member	walk away [yes] leave her to struggle.with the rest of her single parent life, don't support some other ***** nob puke Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:02 PM	#44
Alina20100 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 568 Senior Member	hard to believe something that seemed to be going so well is just poof gone. Sucks for the kid though i mean she is 21 still lives at home and part time job, not a good way to raise a kid. and she is def not ready for one yet either. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:11 PM	#45
refdhbgtd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	If you know she's done it once, to be honest it's probably been more than once. And will happen again, so walk away. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:17 PM	#46
Payodcapy542fro Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	........she is 21 still lives at home and part time job, not a good way to raise a kid. and she is def not ready for one yet either. Maybe she should have thought about this before having unprotected sex with a stranger. It could be worse she could have HIV. Then again so could you, I'd take the advice given and go get tested ASAP. Personally I'd dump her. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:22 PM	#47
PekHyvac Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	I don't think it matters how early you test for HIV, infact you need to get tested for many months afterwards anyway. Obviously don't go having unprotected sex with anyone in the mean time. As for the girl, we can go giving you advice, but really none of us really know your or her's situation. I think you know what you want to do, you just want to hear one of us say it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:33 PM	#48
duawLauff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 617 Senior Member	I think if my girlfriend did that to me I wouldn't be able to forgive her, I am pretty sure I would break up with her but I think I would still keep in infrequent contact just to see if she is ok. We can tell you what to do, or what we think we would do, the truth is none of us KNOW what we WOULD do if it happened and it's up to you to make up your mind. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:42 PM	#49
spapsinee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 501 Senior Member	The fact that she emailed you this explains a lot. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:49 PM	#50
patuvammnogoo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 575 Senior Member	You should listen to RainWind he talks from experience many is the weekend he gets drunk and sleeps with other men. [rofl] Damn right. I'm gay but straight guy. Straight until I'm drunk. As for STD, that's my biggest fear regarding cheating. Drunken cheating I might be able to forgive, but if she let him do it without a rubber and/or I ended up with a disease... someone would be dying in their sleep. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:55 PM	#51
autolubitelone Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	This will always be at the back of your mind. Every time she goes out clubbing, the thought of this will pop up in your head. It will be the foundation of your overall resentment towards her. You do not want that kind of stress. There isn't a woman in the world worth that. Go **** her mom. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 10:56 PM	#52
SHpuntik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 608 Senior Member	I don't think it matters how early you test for HIV, infact you need to get tested for many months afterwards anyway. Yes and no. The ability to control HIV infection is certainly correlated with starting treatment as early as possible. Also, it's important to test the person who is the risk factor, because sometimes it can take up to several weeks to "sero-convert", which means that you may test negative, yet have a small amount of non-replicating virus circulating. Beginning treatment at that stage can often prevent conversion altogether, and effectively "cure" the infection by letting the immune system dispose of the virus before it has a chance to establish latent reservoirs. Anyway, OP should get tested now, as should the girl. He should also get tested in another couple of weeks, and should be aware of any flu-like symptoms that persist for several days, as this is the common symptom of conversion. Obviously don't go having unprotected sex with anyone in the mean time. Very good advice. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 11:04 PM	#53
ingeneensueva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	A friend of mine had sex with a chick that ended up having HIV, she told him the next day (the bitch ) Afterwards he got a longer HIV prophylaxis treatment and it turned out he didn´t get the virus, i know that it´s easier for women to get the virus than men, but still this is something that should be considered. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 11:06 PM	#54
WapSaibiar Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 370 Senior Member	hard to believe something that seemed to be going so well is just poof gone. Sucks for the kid though i mean she is 21 still lives at home and part time job, not a good way to raise a kid. and she is def not ready for one yet either. just leave her to ** up its not your problem anymore.... plus you'll be able to laugh at her as you spot her in town looking dowdy and skint pushing a rickety old pram and the baby is crying because its got a shitty nappy that she cant be arsed to change cos she cant cope that's what I did when I saw my ex after we split and me being told that she had gotten up the duff a few months after we split and the father had **ed her off sharpish... stupid cow Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 11:08 PM	#55
Aozenee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	well there you go.. consequences of immoral behavior. it's just amazing how fast people go to bed and have sex with complete strangers.. not even rarely but all the time.... sure I'm gonna hear some sort of defense for this irresponsible behavior I couldn't live with her.. good luck Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 11:43 PM	#56
Alina20100 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 568 Senior Member	no she actually isnt trying to defend herself at all, in fact she said she doesnt expect me to forgive her. I know ill be able to move on but it just sucks when you didnt want to, and now have to. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2009, 11:45 PM	#57
ingeneensueva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	Viper no offense, but carry on. Go out, get wasted, have some fun,.. Everyone can understand that your hurting right now. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-31-2009, 12:13 AM	#58
tramadoldiscountes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	no she actually isnt trying to defend herself at all, in fact she said she doesnt expect me to forgive her. I know ill be able to move on but it just sucks when you didnt want to, and now have to. At least that's something in her favour, she may have been very ashamed by her actions and e-mailed rather than tell you in person for that reason - but you must both get checked before you decide what is best for both of you. I would still be dis-inclined to take her back, but that's something the two of you will have to sort out yourselves, depending on what is best for you. Either way, ignore the extreme comments and I hope things work out, whatever you decide. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-31-2009, 12:42 AM	#59
ReggieRed Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	Leave her and never speak to her again Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-31-2009, 12:47 AM	#60
dubGucKcolo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	So basically i just found out via email... that my girlfriend of 2yrs cheated on me and got pregnant with some random dude she met at the bar. She claims it was because she was trashed, which i dont doubt cause i know how she gets when she drinks. But ive been going back and forth over this and despite how i felt for her i cant see myself forgiving her for this. I mean even if i did the kid would be a constant reminder of what happened and i wouldnt want the kid to be stuck in the middle of that. No... if you can't love the child, it's not fair on the child or you to have that resentment. I think your GF is very irresponsible, I mean not even mentioning the risk of disease having unprotected sex. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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