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Old 10-22-2009, 10:18 AM   #21
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A slightly modified Ricer mobile could at least be able to somewhat hang with a Stock Turbo S 944.
I wouldn't be sure, back in the day in stock form a 350z or SRT4 was a close race. I don't think a slightly modified civic is there, I'm talking D16 ~90hp civics here.

BTW Have you seen my car since the huge box of parts got installed last December?

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Old 10-22-2009, 10:36 AM   #22
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When I was a kid it was the other way round, this being quite a long time ago, most cars (very few American/performance vehicles down here then) were good for around 70-80 mph or maybe 90 for a 'fast' car. I had a Mini that would top out a bit higher than that. At that time, I drove quickly on the open road - cardinal rules, stay in my own lane, respect other road users and speed limits) often averaging 80mph as it was VERY good at cornering. However, it was common when I came up behind a larger car that they'd put their foot down when I pulled out to overtake - sometimes 20 or more mph faster than they had been driving - IMO, that's a very dangerous thing to do that could result in someone getting hurt or killed.
After I'd pass them they'd continue to tailgate me - remember this is a LOT faster than their previous speed - and quite oftern repass me when I slowed for speed limits. Then on the open road the same thing would happen.
Some may disapprove, but what I'd do with these tailgaters would be to continue at my normal speed until there was a good, tricky corner with good visability through it and take the corner close to flat out. After that the problem would go away - either crashed or scared off. I figure they were asking for it and better they have a single car incident than take out another car!
As I like smaller cars, it's happened when I've been driving them as well but very rarely.

Someone wants to travel faster than me? Simple - I move over a bit and perhaps slow down a little to make it easier and safer for then and let them go - is that so difficult?
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:05 AM   #23
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I have no idea, the term Rice bothers me though, and I think a lot of people are using it wrong.

The stock looking G35 coupe with the skyline badges and the sinister sounding BoV that I saw a few months ago = Not rice

The early 90's Toyota Corolla with the huge aluminum and carbon fiber spoiler, 3.5" chrome exhaust lined with red LED's and the Type R badges on it that I also saw a few months ago = Rice.

I guess my point is IMHO the term Rice should be used for JDM cars that are all show and no go. If the car has go to back up the show then it's something else.

I live near Seattle and I see lots of strange things wandering around on the streets, some good some bad, but nothing makes me smile more than the sound of a BoV coming from a stock looking car that never had a turbo from the factory, and I get that once every few months up here.
Rice = Japanese in general. The G35 is a pingy rice burner in a slick looking shell. Cars should sound throaty.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:07 AM   #24
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Some - never heard a BDA at full cry? Or a Ferrari reaching the red line?
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:12 AM   #25
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Some - never heard a BDA at full cry?
No Or a Ferrari reaching the red line? Are you saying that that is pingy? Bring the Civic to 6K and compare.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:16 AM   #26
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I'm saying neither is especially 'throaty'.
Personally, I also love the sound of a healthy turbo' engine coming onto boost!
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:11 PM   #27
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Pics? And to you have Dyno data?
Not sure how we ended up on my car but here is some stuff. I actually don't have any "normal" shots of the car just a couple artsy ones, and a couple of mostly boring videos when I borrowed a video cam from a friend.






That was a dyno tune there not crazy about the power curve. I have since re-tuned it with the help from Vitessee racing and have gotten close to their power curve but have not had it back to see. This is what their tuning usually looks like.



Idle walkaround
http://www.youtube.com/watch_private...xLnMDBOPt9DA==

1-2 shift then give it a little gas in second and not getting traction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_private...qbGJpaeBSAig==

Last that I have is sadly not my car, but I bought a bunch of the parts off of the car in the video. So it looks and sounds similar on the dyno... minus a few shiny bits and horses. Slowly working towards it though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBj8xiWmSg
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:03 PM   #28
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Maybe cause they think your stock? The car stock is slow, at least compared to your standards.

A slightly modified Ricer mobile could at least be able to somewhat hang with a Stock Turbo S 944. Who knows, maybe they attached a turbocharger to their engines? They are pretty cheap and easy to put in and add loads of power to these things.

They most likely also don't know anything about the car. The size of the engine, the power figures, ect. ect.
Well from my experience, a 'slightly modified' car only includes an open air K&N filter, and a 5" backbox. Maybe its just this country.


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Old 10-22-2009, 04:07 PM   #29
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After I'd pass them they'd continue to tailgate me - remember this is a LOT faster than their previous speed - and quite oftern repass me when I slowed for speed limits. Then on the open road the same thing would happen.
I see drivers still doing this to others today.

Years ago I went down to Melbourne for the F1 (the first race Webber was in). I was driving a POS Renault.

On the dual carriage highway on the return trip I passed a Pajero, once I passed him he retook me and then sloweed down again This continued for about 20 kay's until I got sick of it. Being young I dropped the hammer (I was going the speed limit officer) and really got a good buffer away from him. Next thing I know he is passing me again only to slow down in front of me again.

He was not trying to race me, he was just not happy anyone was overtaking him, he had a Ferrari hat on as well.

So I sat back and put up with sitting 5 km/h under the speed limit (his speed) until I got to the turn off to Canberra. When that turn came up I overtook him again and then turned off the highway (yes I was being such an arse ).

BUT

He turned off with me!? So as it was single lane and twisty I put some distance between him and myself. When I could no longer see his headlights I pulled of on a side road and turned my lights off and waited.

He soon came flying by and didn't see me, his engine was screeming as he was trying deperately to push the 4wd to catch me [rofl]

After a few minutes I then pulled back onto the road and continued on my merry way.

But get this, 20 minutes later I saw him driving back in the opposite direction past me

He had turned off the road to Sydney to try and overtake me, adding almost an hour to his trip!!! I was laughing so much for atleast a few days folowing that.
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:11 PM   #30
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hmm wierd nobody ever tries to race me,..

hahaha!!
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:13 PM   #31
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I am usually very respectful of other people's property, but I think I might take a dump on that car if given the chance. I mean seriously... it looks even more pretentious without a shred of class than a Hummer stretch limo.
nooo way! That car is nice! The only people in a stretched hummer are the people who rented it.
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:17 PM   #32
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nooo way! That car is nice! The only people in a stretched hummer are the people who rented it.
Some people just have a different taste.
I for one enjoy riding around in a 8 million € Maybach Exelero that hit´s 0 to 100km/h in 4,4 sec and peaks out at about 350 km/h. lool ohh man i wish.
But hey that´s just me,..
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:30 PM   #33
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We get round our way, but they are mostly Vauxhall nova drivers who top out at 50mph [rofl]
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:52 PM   #34
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I used to get this all the time in my first car. It was a bright red 2000 Ford Escort ZX2 and it had nothing done to it other than some new speakers in it. I had a racing sticker in the back window though, and apparently that made these ricers think it meant I wanted to race. Guess that's what I get though for putting a racing sticker on the back thinking it looked cool...
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:43 PM   #35
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I get the same thing in my Toyota Celsior...

It's a grey import and there's not much else on the roads around here like it.

Had someone in an audi TT buzzing around me the other day.. annoying as hell, would never dream of speeding with my daughter in the back.

Even my workmates were puching me on the way to a game of football last week... I just let them speed off in the distance... lol

It's probably only going to get worse when I have my custom exhaust fitted. [no]
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #36
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Rice = Japanese in general. The G35 is a pingy rice burner in a slick looking shell. Cars should sound throaty.
Couldn't resist, thanks for the laugh buddy!




Mzman : Was the engine built up at all? Friend from work wants to get the model you have and possibly boost it, just curious how much work is involved.

Thanks.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:31 PM   #37
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Rice = Japanese in general. The G35 is a pingy rice burner in a slick looking shell. Cars should sound throaty.
My PT Cruiser sounds like rice. :\

If the stock turbo ever goes out I'm totally putting a bigger one in there.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:43 PM   #38
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Couldn't resist, thanks for the laugh buddy!

Thanks for the clarification, I did not realize that my opinion was wrong.

To be honest, I actually feel a little bit embarrassed when I am in a Japanese car. My PT Cruiser sounds like rice. :\ Even after the World of FM told you not to buy that POS.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:44 PM   #39
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I get that crap all the time and I drive a stock impala...
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:02 AM   #40
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Things haven't changed all that much over generations really, just the cars and the movies/movie stars that influence the young. And because of movies etc glorifying such actions and street racing...the open road has become a playground. Kids will be kids, you can tell them, teach them, show them, in the end they are still going to do dumb. They all think they are professional drivers because they modified their car and took it to a strip and got a time.

All you can do is smile at them and keep yourself safe. Then miles down the road wave at them as they are on the side getting a ticket. Which is such a great feeling.

Classy 944 btw, time well spent.
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