[DextExexy]

Looks pretty cool but I would rather buy a Bowler Nemesis EXR with the 5ltr S/C V8

http://www.bowler-offroad.com/Nem_20...esis%20EXR.pdf



I am sure the F-150 would be good offroad but I grew up with Land Rovers and know how good they are from the "Land Rover Experience".

Do pick-ups still run ladder chassis with leaf suspension or have they advanced a little bit now [rofl]

I guess there are lots of derogatory terms related to pick-up truck owners aswell. [surrender]

Would love to see them in a race [thumbup]

[beloveds]

same here, we use Toyo Hiluxes with 3 litre NA and turbo' diesels and tow 2 ton trailers with them, also use Isuzu light trucks either NA or turbo. Not fast but with our speed limits they can hustle along with the traffic OK on the flat. Not much good on the hills, though, except the turbo Isuzu trucks.
What we use would be severly compromised in the States and I can see why people would have a use for the larger trucks - just a shame they don't have decent diesels, as I said.
Got an aquaintance with three Dodge Rams with Cummins turbo diesels that have had various Banks tuning upgrades on them and they're fast AND surprisingly economical.

[downtowndude]

Looks pretty cool but I would rather buy a Bowler Nemesis EXR with the 5ltr S/C V8

http://www.bowler-offroad.com/Nem_20...esis%20EXR.pdf



I am sure the F-150 would be good offroad but I grew up with Land Rovers and know how good they are from the "Land Rover Experience".

Do pick-ups still run ladder chassis with leaf suspension or have they advanced a little bit now [rofl]

I guess there are lots of derogatory terms related to pick-up truck owners aswell. [surrender]

Would love to see them in a race [thumbup]

It's called the Paris-Dakar [thumbup]

[downtowndude]

same here, we use Toyo Hiluxes with 3 litre NA and turbo' diesels and tow 2 ton trailers with them, also use Isuzu light trucks either NA or turbo. Not fast but with our speed limits they can hustle along with the traffic OK on the flat. Not much good on the hills, though, except the turbo Isuzu trucks.
What we use would be severly compromised in the States and I can see why people would have a use for the larger trucks - just a shame they don't have decent diesels, as I said.
Got an aquaintance with three Dodge Rams with Cummins turbo diesels that have had various Banks tuning upgrades on them and they're fast AND surprisingly economical.

You have to remember that only a relatively small proportion of fuel stations in the united states supply diesel.

Most Americans avoid diesels after they got let down by the horrible offerings from GM in the 1980's (basically GM converted standard petrol V8's to run on diesel which as you can imagine led to them blowing up at around 50,000 miles)

[beloveds]

If people are going to drive a truck, surely they should be filling up at 'truck stops'? I know THEY sell diesel.
TBH, it's a bit of the old chicken/egg thing, isn't it

[BitStillrhile]

If people are going to drive a truck, surely they should be filling up at 'truck stops'? I know THEY sell diesel.
TBH, it's a bit of the old chicken/egg thing, isn't it

A pickup truck and a truck (semi) are two entirely different things. You don't take a pickup truck to a truck stop.

Most normal gas stations in my area have at least one diesel pump. Diesel is pretty common with the bigger pickup trucks.

My pickup runs on regular gas. Diesel costs more and smells, plus I live in a cold climate.

[IRMartin]

You have to remember that only a relatively small proportion of fuel stations in the united states supply diesel.

Er,NO,unless it's drastically different on the west coast or something...I have never been to a gas station that didn't have diesel as well.

[downtowndude]

Er,NO,unless it's drastically different on the west coast or something...I have never been to a gas station that didn't have diesel as well.

I'm speaking on behalf of the midwest...

at least the states I lived in.

[Aafimoq]

Looks pretty cool but I would rather buy a Bowler Nemesis EXR with the 5ltr S/C V8

http://www.bowler-offroad.com/Nem_20...esis%20EXR.pdf



I am sure the F-150 would be good offroad but I grew up with Land Rovers and know how good they are from the "Land Rover Experience".

Do pick-ups still run ladder chassis with leaf suspension or have they advanced a little bit now [rofl]

I guess there are lots of derogatory terms related to pick-up truck owners aswell. [surrender]

Would love to see them in a race [thumbup]

That's about as far from a fair compairson as you can get!

Sure, lets race, but first you have to put a queen sized mattres and box spring in the back--then you can race.

Ford's have had boxes frame rails for quite a while already... and the suspension, what do you think they should have, a set of coilovers? You do realize that ancient leaf suspension is what enables these trucks to be able to haul thousands of pounds right?

Lets face it, pickups aren't for proformance--they're for when you need to haul stuff that wouldn't fit in a car--or some toys.

[downtowndude]

That's about as far from a fair compairson as you can get!

You do realize that ancient leaf suspension is what enables these trucks to be able to haul thousands of pounds right?
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Isn't the new dodge ram coil sprung all round?

I would say it's more down to the cost than outright capability.

I'm 100% sure a coilsprung pickup will behave better than a leaf sprung one, it's just going to cost more.

[Immampdah]

I'm speaking on behalf of the midwest...

at least the states I lived in.

Really when did you live there?

[BitStillrhile]

Isn't the new dodge ram coil sprung all round?

I would say it's more down to the cost than outright capability.

I'm 100% sure a coilsprung pickup will behave better than a leaf sprung one, it's just going to cost more.

Yeah, I just bought a 2009 RAM 1500 in early June. Coils all around. Makes for an excellent ride. The towing capacity went down by about 500 pounds while also shedding weight in the truck itself. Total towing capacity is 7600 pounds, down from 8100 pounds.

[Sheefeadalfuh]

You have to remember that only a relatively small proportion of fuel stations in the united states supply diesel.

That's crazy talk, at least 90% of the gas stations here in northern California have diesel pumps.

[Nypbscao]

You have to remember that only a relatively small proportion of fuel stations in the united states supply diesel.

Most Americans avoid diesels after they got let down by the horrible offerings from GM in the 1980's (basically GM converted standard petrol V8's to run on diesel which as you can imagine led to them blowing up at around 50,000 miles)

LOL.

Misconceptions FTL.

[Immampdah]

Looks pretty cool but I would rather buy a Bowler Nemesis EXR with the 5ltr S/C V8

http://www.bowler-offroad.com/Nem_20...esis%20EXR.pdf



I am sure the F-150 would be good offroad but I grew up with Land Rovers and know how good they are from the "Land Rover Experience".

Do pick-ups still run ladder chassis with leaf suspension or have they advanced a little bit now [rofl]

I guess there are lots of derogatory terms related to pick-up truck owners aswell. [surrender]

Would love to see them in a race [thumbup]

It's hardly a fair comparison. You are mocking the suspension of a truck by comparing it to an SUV. If you want to compare that Nemesis to something American how's about a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8?

[DextExexy]

It's hardly a fair comparison. You are mocking the suspension of a truck by comparing it to an SUV. If you want to compare that Nemesis to something American how's about a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8?

Hardly fair to compare the Nemesis with a Chelsea Tractor.

btw was only joking about the shock and chassis setups , hence the smilies.

[Immampdah]

Hardly fair to compare the Nemesis with a Chelsea Tractor.

Whatever [rolleyes] I'll just take it you don't have a clue about the SRT pedigree.

[downtowndude]

Really when did you live there?

3 years ago I came back to the U.K

I spend about 2 years living in the midwest, specifically the border between ohio, michigan and indiana. A small town called angola, near fort wayne.

Worked in a town called kendallville.

[downtowndude]

LOL.

Misconceptions FTL.

Agreed... I wanted a small diesel truck with a manual gearbox...

Quickly found out there was no such thing [thumbdown]

[Immampdah]

3 years ago I came back to the U.K

I spend about 2 years living in the midwest, specifically the border between ohio, michigan and indiana. A small town called angola, near fort wayne.

Maybe that's your problem, living in small towns.