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**warrgazur** · 06-05-2009, 05:48 AM

i never said i could do better. he obviously over corrected several times. do you even watch racing?

Stop being so sensitive man, take a joke, lay back

**FreeDownloadOEMsoftware** · 06-05-2009, 06:08 AM

I bet he never cheated and used the walls in Gran Tourismo to get round corners, that's why he had the skills.

LOL

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**Smittoh** · 07-04-2009, 11:23 AM

If it was pure skill he'd have been out of it in 1 or 2 corrections, not 90. Is he a better driver than most soccer moms, sure. Would I let him drive my Lamborghini? Hell no!

**ThisIsOK** · 07-04-2009, 01:27 PM

I love how he casually just turns off the radio after the incident, and doesn't make a peep. Now that's genuine relief right there. [rofl]

**DaleJrGirl** · 07-04-2009, 05:08 PM

If it was pure skill he'd have been out of it in 1 or 2 corrections, not 90. Is he a better driver than most soccer moms, sure. Would I let him drive my Lamborghini? Hell no!

Did we watch different videos? I saw about 4-5 corrections. [rofl]

With that said, I have seen many pros take many counter steers to correct their car. I am not saying he is a pro but that video shows that the driver knows how to handle a car.

**NudiJuicervich** · 07-04-2009, 05:26 PM

The key here is the unexpected nature of the slide.

When driving on the limit you expect the rear end to slide around, and as such can catch it quickly with very little input.

However if it's completely unexpected and you have been nowhere near the limits of grip, it seems to happen alot quicker and requires alot more input to manage the situation.

My conclusion? It was skill that saved him, and 4wd

**Cyncceply** · 07-04-2009, 08:53 PM

So would I.
He reacted quickly, but the second countersteer was too strong... he almost lost it there. But then again, these manoevers aren't exactly the easiest to pull at 150kph so kudos to him no matter what.

Yeh i agree... he's no expert, but he did very well. Just like you say, a bit too much correcting. [surrender]

**ThisIsOK** · 08-04-2009, 07:11 AM

My god... I love how everyone here is a closet Schumacher. [rolleyes]

**casinobonusfrees** · 08-04-2009, 07:17 AM

My god... I love how everyone here is a closet Schumacher. [rolleyes]

what a load of cobblers !

I bet no one gets my joke

**NudiJuicervich** · 08-04-2009, 08:50 AM

Well if the shoe fits!

**Cyncceply** · 08-04-2009, 07:31 PM

My god... I love how everyone here is a closet Schumacher. [rolleyes]

I don't think it's that. We all accept that during the actual skid it's totally different....but when you can analyse his actions on video it makes it easier to point out what he did wrong.

Which wasn't much, just a bit of over correcting.

**ashleyjoseph** · 08-04-2009, 08:17 PM

He obviously has skill, just not "mad skillz".

If he had no skill he'd have ended up upside down in a ditch and the "luck" element would have been used to determined whether his arms were still attached to his body.

**JesikaFclq** · 08-05-2009, 12:08 AM

what a load of cobblers !

I bet no one gets my joke

I don't get it

**warrgazur** · 08-05-2009, 02:45 AM

I don't get it

Same here, I admit that one went over my head

**Paladin** · 08-05-2009, 05:09 AM

what would happen in that situation if you apply the brakes to slow the car down (whilst taking corrective measures).

**Cyncceply** · 08-05-2009, 05:20 AM

what would happen in that situation if you apply the brakes to slow the car down (whilst taking corrective measures).

Brake+Oil+Turning = Fail

**MyOwnStyle** · 08-05-2009, 05:59 AM

Wait, if it was unexpected why was he filming?

Just sayin....

Probably a new car and he was doing that film it going fast and put a vid on youtube thing

But I think he done very well, I sure as hell would be happy with it, makes you think though, my concentration levels are generally quite low when I'm driving with regards to things like this, around this area I'm usually looking out for weans, terrible drivers and terrible road surfaces.

Need to get my concentration back up

**Cyncceply** · 08-05-2009, 06:07 AM

my concentration levels are generally quite low when I'm driving with regards to things like this, around this area I'm usually looking out for weans, terrible drivers and terrible road surfaces.

Need to get my concentration back up

People tend to have increased concentration while going 90~mph

**viagra-kaufen** · 09-04-2009, 07:54 AM

Assuming he's pretty much a normal everyday driver, I'd say that was damn skilful, especially since he wasn't expecting it and was going pretty fast, very scary situation to be in, ofcourse it's easy to theory craft and say what he did wrong when you're sitting at your computer and not in the driving seat...[rolleyes]

**casefexas** · 10-04-2009, 03:38 PM

In my professional opinion if that happened to me I'd probably end up playing pinball with the other cars.

06-05-2009, 05:48 AM	#21
warrgazur Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 586 Senior Member	i never said i could do better. he obviously over corrected several times. do you even watch racing? Stop being so sensitive man, take a joke, lay back Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-05-2009, 06:08 AM	#22
FreeDownloadOEMsoftware Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	I bet he never cheated and used the walls in Gran Tourismo to get round corners, that's why he had the skills. LOL 12345678910. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-04-2009, 11:23 AM	#23
Smittoh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 627 Senior Member	If it was pure skill he'd have been out of it in 1 or 2 corrections, not 90. Is he a better driver than most soccer moms, sure. Would I let him drive my Lamborghini? Hell no! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-04-2009, 01:27 PM	#24
ThisIsOK Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	I love how he casually just turns off the radio after the incident, and doesn't make a peep. Now that's genuine relief right there. [rofl] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-04-2009, 05:08 PM	#25
DaleJrGirl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	If it was pure skill he'd have been out of it in 1 or 2 corrections, not 90. Is he a better driver than most soccer moms, sure. Would I let him drive my Lamborghini? Hell no! Did we watch different videos? I saw about 4-5 corrections. [rofl] With that said, I have seen many pros take many counter steers to correct their car. I am not saying he is a pro but that video shows that the driver knows how to handle a car. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-04-2009, 05:26 PM	#26
NudiJuicervich Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	The key here is the unexpected nature of the slide. When driving on the limit you expect the rear end to slide around, and as such can catch it quickly with very little input. However if it's completely unexpected and you have been nowhere near the limits of grip, it seems to happen alot quicker and requires alot more input to manage the situation. My conclusion? It was skill that saved him, and 4wd Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-04-2009, 08:53 PM	#27
Cyncceply Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	So would I. He reacted quickly, but the second countersteer was too strong... he almost lost it there. But then again, these manoevers aren't exactly the easiest to pull at 150kph so kudos to him no matter what. Yeh i agree... he's no expert, but he did very well. Just like you say, a bit too much correcting. [surrender] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2009, 07:11 AM	#28
ThisIsOK Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	My god... I love how everyone here is a closet Schumacher. [rolleyes] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2009, 07:17 AM	#29
casinobonusfrees Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	My god... I love how everyone here is a closet Schumacher. [rolleyes] what a load of cobblers ! I bet no one gets my joke Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2009, 08:50 AM	#30
NudiJuicervich Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	Well if the shoe fits! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2009, 07:31 PM	#31
Cyncceply Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	My god... I love how everyone here is a closet Schumacher. [rolleyes] I don't think it's that. We all accept that during the actual skid it's totally different....but when you can analyse his actions on video it makes it easier to point out what he did wrong. Which wasn't much, just a bit of over correcting. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2009, 08:17 PM	#32
ashleyjoseph Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	He obviously has skill, just not "mad skillz". If he had no skill he'd have ended up upside down in a ditch and the "luck" element would have been used to determined whether his arms were still attached to his body. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-05-2009, 12:08 AM	#33
JesikaFclq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	what a load of cobblers ! I bet no one gets my joke I don't get it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-05-2009, 02:45 AM	#34
warrgazur Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 586 Senior Member	I don't get it Same here, I admit that one went over my head Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-05-2009, 05:09 AM	#35
Paladin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 306 Senior Member	what would happen in that situation if you apply the brakes to slow the car down (whilst taking corrective measures). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-05-2009, 05:20 AM	#36
Cyncceply Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	what would happen in that situation if you apply the brakes to slow the car down (whilst taking corrective measures). Brake+Oil+Turning = Fail Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-05-2009, 05:59 AM	#37
MyOwnStyle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Wait, if it was unexpected why was he filming? Just sayin.... Probably a new car and he was doing that film it going fast and put a vid on youtube thing But I think he done very well, I sure as hell would be happy with it, makes you think though, my concentration levels are generally quite low when I'm driving with regards to things like this, around this area I'm usually looking out for weans, terrible drivers and terrible road surfaces. Need to get my concentration back up Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-05-2009, 06:07 AM	#38
Cyncceply Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	my concentration levels are generally quite low when I'm driving with regards to things like this, around this area I'm usually looking out for weans, terrible drivers and terrible road surfaces. Need to get my concentration back up People tend to have increased concentration while going 90~mph Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-04-2009, 07:54 AM	#39
viagra-kaufen Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	Assuming he's pretty much a normal everyday driver, I'd say that was damn skilful, especially since he wasn't expecting it and was going pretty fast, very scary situation to be in, ofcourse it's easy to theory craft and say what he did wrong when you're sitting at your computer and not in the driving seat...[rolleyes] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-04-2009, 03:38 PM	#40
casefexas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	In my professional opinion if that happened to me I'd probably end up playing pinball with the other cars. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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