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**Quick$bux** · 03-08-2006, 10:15 PM

I've never quite understood the girls car / hairdressers car labelling. It doesn't really seem to have any consistent logic at all.

Maybe all red convertibles are considered hairdressers cars?

[surrender]

**freflellalafe** · 03-08-2006, 10:55 PM

Which was my point, the last time an American car won outright was in the 60's, with the legendary Ford GT-40. I made this point twice now [rolleyes]

Well it depends in which category you race

. P1 is not a real car, at least not based on road models

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**freflellalafe** · 03-08-2006, 10:56 PM

Maybe all red convertibles are considered hairdressers cars? [surrender]

Ouch all the red ferraris lambos, astons and god knows what might be hairdressers' cars :P.

**BostonDoctorTTT** · 03-08-2006, 11:21 PM

Well it depends in which category you race . P1 is not a real car, at least not based on road models .

And slapping a Vette shell on a race car does not make it a real road going Vette.

**yasalaioqe** · 03-08-2006, 11:24 PM

Since when could a hairdresser afford any of these cars? And if they can, darnit i knew i picked the wrong field of study. And no the viper is not a womans car... ewww dodge.

So what was the census? I mean to the original topic. A super car is exclusive, more than likely not a mass production line model, fast, lots of control?

**myhackingtosh_ws** · 03-09-2006, 06:03 AM

According to most people here, it has to be insanely expensive, crap to get into, have crap visibility, have them only make a handfull at the factory, and have many other downsides, oh, and proform well.

**xanonlinexan** · 03-09-2006, 06:12 AM

According to most people here, it has to be insanely expensive, crap to get into, have crap visibility, have them only make a handfull at the factory, and have many other downsides, oh, and proform well.

nice.

Extremely high performance+exotic/rare = supercar.

No need to whine about it. No need for additional downsides, although by default this means they will be expensive to buy and expensive to own.

**freflellalafe** · 04-08-2006, 03:47 PM

And slapping a Vette shell on a race car does not make it a real road going Vette.

I thought they were based on the road car but with modifications.

**freflellalafe** · 04-08-2006, 03:48 PM

nice.

Extremely high performance+exotic/rare = supercar.

No need to whine about it. No need for additional downsides, although by default this means they will be expensive to buy and expensive to own.

Imagine a $50k supercharged Ariel Atom destroying a $500,000 super car ;P.

**myhackingtosh_ws** · 04-08-2006, 05:41 PM

Imagine a $50k supercharged Ariel Atom destroying a $500,000 super car ;P.

Wasn't the Ariel Atom an electric car?

**Phlkxkbh** · 04-08-2006, 07:27 PM

Wasn't the Ariel Atom an electric car?

No, supercharged petrol.

**myhackingtosh_ws** · 07-31-2006, 04:42 PM

Really, what's the defining characteristic of one? I've seen plenty of Corvettes or Vipers that would stomp a shitbox in Porches and Ferraris, but I almost never hear them called super cars? What's the defining line?

Is it handling? If a Civic out handles a Ferrari is it a super car?
Is it price? If you get your Pinto gold plated is it a super car?
Is it exclusivity? My 1914 Model T is more exclusive than any 360 Spider does that make it a super car?
Is it the number of vents? (That's a Saleen joke there...)

What makes a car a super car?

**Lebybynctisee** · 07-31-2006, 04:47 PM

Its a combination of performance / handling, price, and exclusivity.

A supercar has traditionally been an powerful, expensive, exotic car, produced in limited numbers, and usually rather expensive.

It is also (to certain degree) down to the make.

The lastest offering from Noble for example, fills all of the criteria in terms of handling, speed, performance etc, yet I doubt most people have ever heard of them, and for that reason it will never really be a true "supercar".

**myhackingtosh_ws** · 07-31-2006, 04:51 PM

Its a combination of performance / handling, price, and exclusivity.

A supercar has traditionally been an powerful, expensive, exotic car, produced in limited numbers, and usually rather expensive.

So if a Z06 cost 3x the price, it would be a super car?

**Rurcextedutty** · 07-31-2006, 04:54 PM

only if they produced 8x less of them

. doesn't make them any less good, as a z06 will stomp most cars out there a new one, but that doesn't matter. the fact that you can ATTAIN one, makes it not a supercar. "Super" cars, are "only" for the rich and famous. BAH i say. BOOOO stupid supercar rules, HORRAYYYYYYYYYY Corvettes!

**Lebybynctisee** · 07-31-2006, 05:16 PM

So if a Z06 cost 3x the price, it would be a super car?

No (and you know that too

).

Whether or not a car is a supercar is not the result of black-and-white box ticking. Its something more than that ultimately - A supercar is not the result of filling certain criteria - its a combination of several factors, some of which cannot really be quantified. - ultimately it is rather subjective.

**myhackingtosh_ws** · 07-31-2006, 05:21 PM

No (and you know that too ).

Whether or not a car is a supercar is not the result of black-and-white box ticking. Its something more than that ultimately - A supercar is not the result of filling certain criteria - its a combination of several factors, some of which cannot really be quantified. - ultimately it is rather subjective.

Well... you're Brittish, you don't count.

**Indinehon** · 07-31-2006, 05:27 PM

Supercars = Ferrari, Lamborghini and Buggati usually, and maybe Maserati occasionally...

Exceptions to the rule = McLaren F1, Ford GT/40, AC/Shelby Cobra, etc..

**myhackingtosh_ws** · 07-31-2006, 05:50 PM

Supercars = Ferrari, Lamborghini and Buggati usually, and maybe Maserati occasionally...

Exceptions to the rule = McLaren F1, Ford GT/40, AC/Shelby Cobra, etc..

Pagatti, Konegsenegnen, Saleen, and many others?

That's what I'm getting at, there's no real standard...

**Indinehon** · 07-31-2006, 05:57 PM

Pagatti, Konegsenegnen, Saleen, and many others?

That's what I'm getting at, there's no real standard...

I'd say out of those three, only the Koenigsegg is a "Supercar", the others meet the same subjective criteria as the Nobel that Chris mentioned.

03-08-2006, 10:15 PM	#41
Quick$bux Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	I've never quite understood the girls car / hairdressers car labelling. It doesn't really seem to have any consistent logic at all. Maybe all red convertibles are considered hairdressers cars? [surrender] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2006, 10:55 PM	#42
freflellalafe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 661 Senior Member	Which was my point, the last time an American car won outright was in the 60's, with the legendary Ford GT-40. I made this point twice now [rolleyes] Well it depends in which category you race . P1 is not a real car, at least not based on road models . Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2006, 10:56 PM	#43
freflellalafe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 661 Senior Member	Maybe all red convertibles are considered hairdressers cars? [surrender] Ouch all the red ferraris lambos, astons and god knows what might be hairdressers' cars :P. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2006, 11:21 PM	#44
BostonDoctorTTT Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Well it depends in which category you race . P1 is not a real car, at least not based on road models . And slapping a Vette shell on a race car does not make it a real road going Vette. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2006, 11:24 PM	#45
yasalaioqe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 450 Senior Member	Since when could a hairdresser afford any of these cars? And if they can, darnit i knew i picked the wrong field of study. And no the viper is not a womans car... ewww dodge. So what was the census? I mean to the original topic. A super car is exclusive, more than likely not a mass production line model, fast, lots of control? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-09-2006, 06:03 AM	#46
myhackingtosh_ws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	According to most people here, it has to be insanely expensive, crap to get into, have crap visibility, have them only make a handfull at the factory, and have many other downsides, oh, and proform well. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-09-2006, 06:12 AM	#47
xanonlinexan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 623 Senior Member	According to most people here, it has to be insanely expensive, crap to get into, have crap visibility, have them only make a handfull at the factory, and have many other downsides, oh, and proform well. nice. Extremely high performance+exotic/rare = supercar. No need to whine about it. No need for additional downsides, although by default this means they will be expensive to buy and expensive to own. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2006, 03:47 PM	#48
freflellalafe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 661 Senior Member	And slapping a Vette shell on a race car does not make it a real road going Vette. I thought they were based on the road car but with modifications. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2006, 03:48 PM	#49
freflellalafe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 661 Senior Member	nice. Extremely high performance+exotic/rare = supercar. No need to whine about it. No need for additional downsides, although by default this means they will be expensive to buy and expensive to own. Imagine a $50k supercharged Ariel Atom destroying a $500,000 super car ;P. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2006, 05:41 PM	#50
myhackingtosh_ws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	Imagine a $50k supercharged Ariel Atom destroying a $500,000 super car ;P. Wasn't the Ariel Atom an electric car? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2006, 07:27 PM	#51
Phlkxkbh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Wasn't the Ariel Atom an electric car? No, supercharged petrol. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 04:42 PM	#52
myhackingtosh_ws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	What makes a super car? Really, what's the defining characteristic of one? I've seen plenty of Corvettes or Vipers that would stomp a shitbox in Porches and Ferraris, but I almost never hear them called super cars? What's the defining line? Is it handling? If a Civic out handles a Ferrari is it a super car? Is it price? If you get your Pinto gold plated is it a super car? Is it exclusivity? My 1914 Model T is more exclusive than any 360 Spider does that make it a super car? Is it the number of vents? (That's a Saleen joke there...) What makes a car a super car? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 04:47 PM	#53
Lebybynctisee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 587 Senior Member	Its a combination of performance / handling, price, and exclusivity. A supercar has traditionally been an powerful, expensive, exotic car, produced in limited numbers, and usually rather expensive. It is also (to certain degree) down to the make. The lastest offering from Noble for example, fills all of the criteria in terms of handling, speed, performance etc, yet I doubt most people have ever heard of them, and for that reason it will never really be a true "supercar". Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 04:51 PM	#54
myhackingtosh_ws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	Its a combination of performance / handling, price, and exclusivity. A supercar has traditionally been an powerful, expensive, exotic car, produced in limited numbers, and usually rather expensive. So if a Z06 cost 3x the price, it would be a super car? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 04:54 PM	#55
Rurcextedutty Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	only if they produced 8x less of them . doesn't make them any less good, as a z06 will stomp most cars out there a new one, but that doesn't matter. the fact that you can ATTAIN one, makes it not a supercar. "Super" cars, are "only" for the rich and famous. BAH i say. BOOOO stupid supercar rules, HORRAYYYYYYYYYY Corvettes! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 05:16 PM	#56
Lebybynctisee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 587 Senior Member	So if a Z06 cost 3x the price, it would be a super car? No (and you know that too ). Whether or not a car is a supercar is not the result of black-and-white box ticking. Its something more than that ultimately - A supercar is not the result of filling certain criteria - its a combination of several factors, some of which cannot really be quantified. - ultimately it is rather subjective. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 05:21 PM	#57
myhackingtosh_ws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	No (and you know that too ). Whether or not a car is a supercar is not the result of black-and-white box ticking. Its something more than that ultimately - A supercar is not the result of filling certain criteria - its a combination of several factors, some of which cannot really be quantified. - ultimately it is rather subjective. Well... you're Brittish, you don't count. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 05:27 PM	#58
Indinehon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Supercars = Ferrari, Lamborghini and Buggati usually, and maybe Maserati occasionally... Exceptions to the rule = McLaren F1, Ford GT/40, AC/Shelby Cobra, etc.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 05:50 PM	#59
myhackingtosh_ws Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	Supercars = Ferrari, Lamborghini and Buggati usually, and maybe Maserati occasionally... Exceptions to the rule = McLaren F1, Ford GT/40, AC/Shelby Cobra, etc.. Pagatti, Konegsenegnen, Saleen, and many others? That's what I'm getting at, there's no real standard... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2006, 05:57 PM	#60
Indinehon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Pagatti, Konegsenegnen, Saleen, and many others? That's what I'm getting at, there's no real standard... I'd say out of those three, only the Koenigsegg is a "Supercar", the others meet the same subjective criteria as the Nobel that Chris mentioned. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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