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**Kghyutgykim** · 02-20-2009, 05:06 AM

I've narrowed my choices to these 2 TV's.

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-PDP-60...pr_product_top

Or

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN55A9...5073904&sr=1-9

Which one should i order??[cursing] What bugs me about LCD is the viewing angle...

**Thigmaswams** · 02-20-2009, 05:19 AM

The Pioneer is definitely the nicer screen as far as I'm concerned. It'll have slightly better blacks, perfect viewing angles(which that LED LCD won't have), better color accuracy, and it's 5" larger!

The Samsung is nice, but their LED tech is still developing(for example, eventually they want an LED diode for every single pixel on the screen. Right now there's one diode for each group of 20 pixels or so, so there's a little bit of light bleeding). However, if it's a concern to you, the Samsung should take up quite a bit less electricity than the Pioneer. It's definitely the greener set of the two.

Still, my vote easily goes to Pioneer.

**imictiorume** · 02-20-2009, 08:57 AM

Don't you already have a Pioneer Kuro plasma?

**hacyOrgachbic** · 02-20-2009, 09:12 AM

The Kuro has been the reigning champion for about a year now. It's still the king of the hill as far as I know.[thumbup]

**Mowselelew** · 02-20-2009, 09:29 AM

What bugs me about LCD is the viewing angle...

sit in front of the TV when you watch it.

**imictiorume** · 02-20-2009, 09:32 AM

sit in front of the TV when you watch it.

Well that is only an issue with lower end panels anyway.

**Thigmaswams** · 02-20-2009, 09:32 AM

sit in front of the TV when you watch it.

people who have friends or family might be interested in everyone being able to enjoy the pristine picture.

Well that is only an issue with lower end panels anyway.

And on any LED panel as far as I've read. And that samsung the OP linked is an LED panel.

**imictiorume** · 02-20-2009, 09:41 AM

And on any LED panel as far as I've read. And that samsung the OP linked is an LED panel.

LED is just the backlight. At extreme angles sure but the image will be pristine at any normal viewing angles. Are you happy with the viewing angles on your LCoS? I remember there being issues with mine at extreme angles but for a RP TV it had decent viewing angles but no better than a high end LCD. Even with people at the side of the room would have a dimmed image but it was still perfectly watchable.

Obviously with any display you want to sit as centered as possible but I doubt anyone in his family or his friends would notice or it would affect their experience.

**Beragagnu** · 02-20-2009, 09:43 AM

Since Pioneer is going out of the TV business in the next year, will their warranty still be valid or will you be screwed if you ever need a factory service?

EDIT: As far as picture quality is concerned, the KURO is leaps and bounds above any LCD. I owned one for two weeks, and once you get it calibrated, it's almost like looking through a window. Insanely realistic picture. The downside is that you might end up with a loudly buzzing unit, and if you do, it's a total nightmare.

Sadly, it's not totally uncommon:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949003

And that's why I only owned it for two weeks.

**creewespock** · 02-20-2009, 11:13 AM

Samsung is nice.

**unfolaReemoma** · 02-20-2009, 02:41 PM

Both are great TV's but if I had to choose I would defiantly go with the Kuro with out a doubt.

**Thigmaswams** · 02-20-2009, 04:11 PM

LED is just the backlight. At extreme angles sure but the image will be pristine at any normal viewing angles. Are you happy with the viewing angles on your LCoS? I remember there being issues with mine at extreme angles but for a RP TV it had decent viewing angles but no better than a high end LCD. Even with people at the side of the room would have a dimmed image but it was still perfectly watchable.

Obviously with any display you want to sit as centered as possible but I doubt anyone in his family or his friends would notice or it would affect their experience.

I guess I'm just more picky about viewing angles. The viewing angles on my LCoS are tolerable, but I certainly would be much happier without the issue, and it's one of the biggest reasons that I know I'll be upgrading in the next year or so.

But anyway, have you seen this set in person? My father purchased one, the 46" version, and we were both disappointed with the viewing angles compared to a normal fluorescent backlit LCD. Black levels were fantastic although if you came closer to the screen you could see some slight light bleeding between a very bright object and a pitch black object. Not bad or anything but you could notice it up close.

Even CNET complains that the "picture washes out and discolors from off-angle":

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-33182079.html

Plasma's, especially high end ones like the Pioneer, are known for their fantastic viewing angles as well.

**Seiblybiozy** · 02-22-2009, 02:14 PM

Pioneer. If you don't mind the risk of burn in.

**PrettyFifa12** · 02-23-2009, 09:36 AM

No doubt the pioneer i have the PDPLX5090 ( 50" latest series UK model ) it is the BEST 50" on the market atm by a long shot.... never even had a hint of screen retention even after a mamoth gaming session and few times i fell asleep [thumbup]

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Kghyutgykim Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	New TV time! I've narrowed my choices to these 2 TV's. http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-PDP-60...pr_product_top Or http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN55A9...5073904&sr=1-9 Which one should i order??[cursing] What bugs me about LCD is the viewing angle... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Thigmaswams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	The Pioneer is definitely the nicer screen as far as I'm concerned. It'll have slightly better blacks, perfect viewing angles(which that LED LCD won't have), better color accuracy, and it's 5" larger! The Samsung is nice, but their LED tech is still developing(for example, eventually they want an LED diode for every single pixel on the screen. Right now there's one diode for each group of 20 pixels or so, so there's a little bit of light bleeding). However, if it's a concern to you, the Samsung should take up quite a bit less electricity than the Pioneer. It's definitely the greener set of the two. Still, my vote easily goes to Pioneer. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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imictiorume Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Don't you already have a Pioneer Kuro plasma? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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hacyOrgachbic Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 588 Senior Member	The Kuro has been the reigning champion for about a year now. It's still the king of the hill as far as I know.[thumbup] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Mowselelew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	What bugs me about LCD is the viewing angle... sit in front of the TV when you watch it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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imictiorume Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	sit in front of the TV when you watch it. Well that is only an issue with lower end panels anyway. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-20-2009, 09:41 AM	#8
imictiorume Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	And on any LED panel as far as I've read. And that samsung the OP linked is an LED panel. LED is just the backlight. At extreme angles sure but the image will be pristine at any normal viewing angles. Are you happy with the viewing angles on your LCoS? I remember there being issues with mine at extreme angles but for a RP TV it had decent viewing angles but no better than a high end LCD. Even with people at the side of the room would have a dimmed image but it was still perfectly watchable. Obviously with any display you want to sit as centered as possible but I doubt anyone in his family or his friends would notice or it would affect their experience. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-20-2009, 09:43 AM	#9
Beragagnu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Since Pioneer is going out of the TV business in the next year, will their warranty still be valid or will you be screwed if you ever need a factory service? EDIT: As far as picture quality is concerned, the KURO is leaps and bounds above any LCD. I owned one for two weeks, and once you get it calibrated, it's almost like looking through a window. Insanely realistic picture. The downside is that you might end up with a loudly buzzing unit, and if you do, it's a total nightmare. Sadly, it's not totally uncommon: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949003 And that's why I only owned it for two weeks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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creewespock Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 517 Senior Member	Samsung is nice. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-20-2009, 02:41 PM	#11
unfolaReemoma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	Both are great TV's but if I had to choose I would defiantly go with the Kuro with out a doubt. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-20-2009, 04:11 PM	#12
Thigmaswams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	LED is just the backlight. At extreme angles sure but the image will be pristine at any normal viewing angles. Are you happy with the viewing angles on your LCoS? I remember there being issues with mine at extreme angles but for a RP TV it had decent viewing angles but no better than a high end LCD. Even with people at the side of the room would have a dimmed image but it was still perfectly watchable. Obviously with any display you want to sit as centered as possible but I doubt anyone in his family or his friends would notice or it would affect their experience. I guess I'm just more picky about viewing angles. The viewing angles on my LCoS are tolerable, but I certainly would be much happier without the issue, and it's one of the biggest reasons that I know I'll be upgrading in the next year or so. But anyway, have you seen this set in person? My father purchased one, the 46" version, and we were both disappointed with the viewing angles compared to a normal fluorescent backlit LCD. Black levels were fantastic although if you came closer to the screen you could see some slight light bleeding between a very bright object and a pitch black object. Not bad or anything but you could notice it up close. Even CNET complains that the "picture washes out and discolors from off-angle": http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-33182079.html Plasma's, especially high end ones like the Pioneer, are known for their fantastic viewing angles as well. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Seiblybiozy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 587 Senior Member	Pioneer. If you don't mind the risk of burn in. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-23-2009, 09:36 AM	#14
PrettyFifa12 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	No doubt the pioneer i have the PDPLX5090 ( 50" latest series UK model ) it is the BEST 50" on the market atm by a long shot.... never even had a hint of screen retention even after a mamoth gaming session and few times i fell asleep [thumbup] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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