[johnuioyer]

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...f=mpstoryemail

really? 27 years?
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[Dastyh]

"was sentenced to serve 25 life sentences to run concurrently. The judge said the minimum term the 56-year-old rapist should serve in jail should be 19½ years."


Why call it a life sentance if he can get out in 20 years?


Why in the world should he spend any less than 27 years in prison plus some interest.

[MatueHarton]

I guess the idea is that your life as you know it is basically over after 20+ years.

Imagine going into a place like that and not seeing how everything changes for over 2 decades. A lot of people would not be able to cope with the world that greets them when they re-emerge.

I can definitely see what you're talking about though, from a logical perspective.

[benderkoz]

I guess the idea is that your life as you know it is basically over after 20+ years.

Imagine going into a place like that and not seeing how everything changes for over 2 decades. A lot of people would not be able to cope with the world that greets them when they re-emerge.

I can definitely see what you're talking about though, from a logical perspective.

IIRC, most prisoners aren't isolated from the world. Many still get TV and printed news, no?

[MatueHarton]

IIRC, most prisoners aren't isolated from the world. Many still get TV and printed news, no?

Shows how much I know!

[xmasblush]

[Progniusis]

What i dont understand is why didnt the girls tell someone. I mean did they have any family? I think someone should of caught onto what the father was doing and eventually called the police. Also the girls were raped for 27 years so that make them 27 and up right? So wouldnt they of just moved out or ran away at like 16, 17. Im confused...

[DexOnenlyCymn]

IIRC, most prisoners aren't isolated from the world. Many still get TV and printed news, no?

Yeah but it would still be brutal. Imagine if you were in prison in 1988 and just got out now. You would have no idea how to use half of the technology in the world. Not to defend the sentence length, I'm just saying that things would be a lot different in 20 years, totally unrelated to the thread subject.

[DJkillos]

What i dont understand is why didnt the girls tell someone. I mean did they have any family? I think someone should of caught onto what the father was doing and eventually called the police. Also the girls were raped for 27 years so that make them 27 and up right? So wouldnt they of just moved out or ran away at like 16, 17. Im confused...

They did

It emerged that in 1998 one daughter rang Childline, a charity to help abused kids, and asked for assurances about being able to keep her children if she came forward. When Childline could not make that guarantee, the daughter did nothing more to raise her plight. Despite visiting hospitals and meeting with social workers over the 27 years of abuse, no investigation was launched into the family. The man should die for what he did, but I find those two things even worse. There was opportunity to stop it years ago, but nothing was done by the people who should have done something. That makes me even more sick.

[jhfsdhf]

"was sentenced to serve 25 life sentences to run concurrently. The judge said the minimum term the 56-year-old rapist should serve in jail should be 19½ years."


Why call it a life sentance if he can get out in 20 years?


Why in the world should he spend any less than 27 years in prison plus some interest.

The fact that he got 25 life sentences I would have thought that would have added up to more than 19 1/2 years.

[mQb0aVZe]

"was sentenced to serve 25 life sentences to run concurrently. The judge said the minimum term the 56-year-old rapist should serve in jail should be 19½ years."


Why call it a life sentance if he can get out in 20 years?


Why in the world should he spend any less than 27 years in prison plus some interest.

I'm gonna wager a guess that he got life with a chance of parole. Good behavior, etc etc.

Besides, 19 1/2 years of forceful gang ass-raping day in, day out? His ass will be so floppy when he gets out he won't have a chance at a normal life anyway.

And FWIW, rapists are not well liked in prison. The chances this dude sees the light of day and lives that long are probably pretty slim. It's one thing that always gave me a glimmer of hope in human kind; you can all-out cold-blooded kill 5, and you still have the morals to deplore a rapist or child molester. There's something ironic, yet poetic about that.

[flanna.kersting]

The man should die for what he did, but I find those two things even worse. There was opportunity to stop it years ago, but nothing was done by the people who should have done something. That makes me even more sick.

I have zero respect for child protective services and other like agencies. After telling my wife's younger sister that it was her fault and blaming her for being a bad kid... Its just sickening and pathetic. Way to go. Tell an abused child its their fault they're abused.

I hear about it all the time. Even from kids I know are abused. Kids I went to school with. Everyone assumes the kid is always making things up, or is exaggerating. A busted lip... some bruises... nah.. that's just good old fashioned punishment.

Crap like this doesn't surprise me. The system should have protected these children, but like with so many others it didn't. It looks like over the pond is no different than this country.

you can all-out cold-blooded kill 5, and you still have the morals to deplore a rapist or child molester. There's something ironic, yet poetic about that.

Some people deserve to die, but nobody ever deserves to be raped.

[investmentonlinev2006x]

...was sentenced to serve 25 life sentences to run concurrently. The judge said the minimum term the 56-year-old rapist should serve in jail should be 19½ years. Once again I cannot speak for the British legal system but in the states there is a method we follow.

The chance of him being paroled is very unlikely after 19 years. In the corrections system in my state (MI) in order to be eligible for parole many things are reviewed

1. Public safety risk
2. Behavior in prison
3. Mental Health

That's just a few things that determine the eligibility of parole. Considering that he was a child rapist he will not received well in prison as others have said but that doesn't necessarily matter in some instances. Before he is placed into a prison an assessment will be done similar to the one that would be done to determine if he's eligable for parole. They will see what risks he may cause, what risks he may have in prison (from other prisoners), and his escape risk. The chances of him being placed in a low security prison (LVL I-III) is highly unlikely because of the charges that he has and the sentance that he carries.
In this case he would probably be placed in a level IV prison to start which would grant him very little freedom and he would be locked down in his cell for probably 23 hours a day which limits his exposure to other prisoners.
Also, this also depends what type of cell block he is placed into. If he is placed into general population he will spend his one hour of recreation out with other prisoners and if he somehow manages to get a work detail that would also grant him time outside of his cell.
If he is placed in segregation (doubtful) he will have almost no exposure to other inmates even when on rec.
If he is placed into protective custody (this is where I think he will start) he will spend more time with other prisoners because it's possible his cell with be double bunked.
In reality it's hard to say where he will be placed because it also depends on his prior offenses as well.

I could go on for hours about this... but im far too lazy to do so lol...

[FallJimerks]

If that would have happened here in Finland max. sentence he gets is 5-10 years.
Good behavior, job etc etc he sits max. of 2-5 years.

BUT!

Oh my god if he would have cheated in his taxes or other material tricks the sentence would be at least 15 years.

Our law system if ****ED up... [cursing][cursing][cursing][cursing][cursing]

[DJkillos]

Our law system if ****ED up... [cursing][cursing][cursing][cursing][cursing]

Who's isn't.

[Tveabuti]

Who's isn't.

Somalia.

[drexigordiche]

Ya, it really sucks it's called life sentence and only 27 years. Should only be called that if you are in the prison until you die and they shouldnt even deserve a funueral.

Anyway, I bet that the low prison time with rape convicts is because men are the rules of the world pretty much.

[Kalobbis]

They should fill his grapefruits full of liquid to the point where it swells to the size of a baseball, tie his feet to a truck while sitting on his manhoods and drag him across broken glass mixed in with salt and vinegar.

[Podosinovik]

Here in Singapore, he would have been jailed for the rest of his natural life for a crime less henious than what he committed. He would also have been flogged had he been caught six years earlier.

Singapore's laws are really harsh compared to those of many European nations.