[foI3fKWv]

You gotta remember this happened at 3 am and most everyone was probably asleep. Now when you wake up to screaming and look over at someone getting stabbed I doubt anyone is going to have the mental reflexes to do anything but run and also if one person sees another person running it is human nature to follow the actions of the others. If nobody steps in then 99% of the time nobody will help. But if people see one other person helping then it triggers a response to go help as well. This is natural human behavior that everyone has and you can't really control it.

[wmzeto]

Stab the guy back.

[occurrini]

You gotta remember this happened at 3 am and most everyone was probably asleep. Now when you wake up to screaming and look over at someone getting stabbed I doubt anyone is going to have the mental reflexes to do anything but run and also if one person sees another person running it is human nature to follow the actions of the others. If nobody steps in then 99% of the time nobody will help. But if people see one other person helping then it triggers a response to go help as well. This is natural human behavior that everyone has and you can't really control it.

I couldn't agree more. I really don't believe all of you who are saying that you would have stepped in and saved the day. Yeah sure you may be one "hardcore dude" and have fought in all kinds of fights before, heck, been stabbed even. But the fact of the matter is, from what I have heard you all knew that these fights were coming and were able to mentally and physically prepare yourself for not only inflicting harm on another person, but possibly receiving some harm yourself. As LordInfamous said, this is 3am on a bus, the last thing going through your mind is that some lunatic is going to start stabbing people. I have seen enough people woken up abruptly in my life to know the the vast majority of the population will wake up dazed and confused, not knowing where they are let alone how to disarm some psycho with a knife. Yeah this is a terrible situation, but I commend those on the bus that had the common sense and presence of mind enough to get people off the bus and lock the crazy inside.

And if any of you doubts this claim, send me your address, I'll show up at your bedside with a knife and see exactly how you fair.

[pouslytut]

As LordInfamous said, this is 3am on a bus, the last thing going through your mind is that some lunatic is going to start stabbing people.

I never read the part where it said 3am, if it really was that early in the morning then sh*t[shocked]

And if any of you doubts this claim, send me your address, I'll show up at your bedside with a knife and see exactly how you fair.

My brother did that to me once (without the knife) and my first reaction was punching him the the face[rofl]

[ZIZITOPER]

Fist fights are common, stabbings are common. This kind of brutality is not. At least not in North America. I think most of us would have been mentally unable to respond. And even if you were you may have been foolish to do so. I remember an email making the rounds a while back of a highly trained cop who tried to stop a knife wielding person, only to be slashed from head to foot, and believe me the images were brutal. Huge gaping wounds.

It may be on ours minds to help, but most of us wouldn't or couldn't.

[Uplillacype]

Wow the guy had a knife. So what you saying is that you prefer someone else to die just so you don't have to get a few cuts and scratches? [rolleyes]

The likelihood is you'd get stabbed too and then they'd be taking two body bags away instead of one. What good would that do?

[Reftsheette]

I thought it occured one hour after the kid texted his dad sometime at or after the Brandon stop. That's 7:30pm CST he texted his dad, the attack occured around 8:30pm CST--according to CBC news.

Most people were still awake, there was about an hour left until Winnipeg--which is the worst part. The other worst part is that the attacker only arrived on the bus in Brandon which is only 200km from Winnipeg. This is a horrible scenario of "the wrong place at the wrong time".

It's like on American Airlines flight 11 you ask yourself how does 90 american passengers allow 5 hijackers to take over the airplane and allow it to fly into the World Trade Center. Well picture yourself in that situation, would you follow the herd or be the hero? Human nature is to follow, hollywood nature is to take risk/take lead.

[pouslytut]

The likelihood is you'd get stabbed too and then they'd be taking two body bags away instead of one. What good would that do?

It wouldn't do any good if no-one would help you restrain the guy. It would however earn everyone else the right to wear a hat with the letters "I Am A Coward".

But like has been said, it was done at 3am in the morning so reaction time would be slower. However adrenaline would kick in and you would become aware. I guess its a tricky situation and it all depends on how it was done.

I still remember when I was a young kid and my dad was driving me into town. I saw a guy getting the **** beat out of him by a couple of other guys and my dad got out of the car and helped him. The other guys then tried to fight my dad. However that didn't happen and they ended up leaving. If my dad didn't step in to help the guy would surely of been killed as when the police and ambo arrived he was in a serious condition.

Funny thing is is that no-one else bothered to help the guy only my dad did. And I've kinda been raised in the same way in the sense that helping others is just as important as helping yourself.

[UFJon]

yea , this is the same as flight 11 . knives and many passengers at the mercy . no one is really trained to combat this , at least not civilians, nothing could have been done.

except maybe bring back the guillotine.

[Tzqowwyt]

What I don't get is why nobody helped him. They had time to stop the bus and get everyone off before anyone even tried to do anything. Maybe the guy would still have his head ffs. [thumbdown] There are easily 10 people within 3 feet of the guy. 20 hands versus 2. It could have been over in 10 seconds.

It's so horrible to see how people on a plane will all scramble to help if someone is attacked when all of their lives are at stake but people will simply run off a bus when they can save themselves.

Two stabs to the throat with a rambo knife and you're gone. Before anyone realized what was happening the kid was probably dead. And what would anyone be able to do in a cramped bus against a crazy man with a knife besides get stabbed?

[Pszinygv]

I'm always amazed at the amount of brave, heroic and courageous people that hang out on internet forums.

Whenever a personal tragedy strikes, there is always someone who is sat at a keyboard that could have saved the day if they had been there. Its just a shame they can't get off their arses, I'm sure the world would be a much better, safer and happier place.

I wonder why the thread continued after this comment.

Anyways, I would have kicked that guy's ass.

[poRmawayncmop]

I would bet my FM account that you tarts would run for the hills if you saw this happening right in front of you.

just so you guys know before you start stroking your CS KILLS.

Ive been mortared blown up and hand grenade'd and id still run like fook from some bloke with a knife......
a bit of honesty here.....

when a car back fires i hit the deck and I come all over afraid.....its not nice....and i still suffer from this too,

but yeah im an arse on the forum who you hate...

its a nice thing in life to be suddenly overcome with fear when you hear a firework...

total gayness aint it to be **** SCARED of every boom you hear

[Evsltkzl]

I would have done the guy EASY.

On my weekends I dress up in a silly Batman costume and fight the evil people of this world, it's a hobby I enjoy and it gets me out of the house.

[pouslytut]

I would have done the guy EASY.

lmao I read this the wrong way[rofl]

[Evsltkzl]

You my friend have a dirty mind, but you are online so that is a given.

[WertyNtont]

Stab the guy back.

Or if you're in a place that allows concealed carry, you teach the sick **** not to bring a knife to a gun fight.

[Faigokilix]

Wow the guy had a knife. So what you saying is that you prefer someone else to die just so you don't have to get a few cuts and scratches? [rolleyes]

I've seen videos of people having their heads cut off and know that it can be done quickly but honestly, stabbed over 30 times and beheaded in a confined space wouldn't be nowhere near as easy as doing it in the open so it would of easily taken 2 to 3 minutes. That.s PLENTY of time to react.

And like has been said, the guy was seriously out numbered and could of easily been restrained.

Sure he could after all people with knives can't just go on a rampage... can they?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/08/asia/japan.php

[UFJon]

finally the killer's name has been released...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25966835/

[qp0yfHOf]

I just hope our Canadian judicial system doesn't mess this case up like they do so often.

[Vobomei]

If 30+ ppl all reacted the same on that bus it pretty much means that it was the natural reaction to such a situation. I see ppl here saying they woulda tackled him/restrained him but honestly none of us were there so dont just say you out of all ppl WOULD have done something...Making a decision to restrain the killer would have taken some type of verbal agreement amongst the passengers and some kind of organization...I doubt anyone would have gone at him alone without the knowledge that you werent the only one trying to stop the killer.

A butcher knife is pretty big and lethal, Im sure the "e-bad asses" here are thinking....ohh pff whats a scratch?? Hmm well whats a stab to the stomach?? it wouldnt take much force of speed to insert a butcher knife into flesh, thats what its made for!!

So I doubt that this bus was filled with cowards, it was filled with just everyday ppl who saw something gruesome and extraordinary and just acted upon survival insinct, which by the way is our oldest and most powerful instinct!!

So dont come here judging the ppl who didnt/couldnt do anything on the bus when you yourselves would have probably done the same thing, you werent there so dont assume you would have been the hero!!

Just cause ur tough on the internet doesnt make u tough in the real world....

(This post is intended for the e-thugs only)