[thargeagsaf]

The challenge can be fun... but I think I'm coming to the realization that the only fun thing is the challenge... the task itself sucks. :P

When SQL becomes fun you know you are a helpless geek.

[adverwork]

Yeah, most of my peers are over 40k/year for the bottom rung of IT, I am making about $50k now but still doesn't feel like I'm making a dent in my school loans.

When i take my yearly trip to Nebraska for the RC club some of them are shocked at how I'll spend money, but then again a brand new house out there might cost you $60 to $80,000! For houses like that where I live it would be about $250,000. Wild variances in the cost of living.

[Gakeincidoniac]

A short adjustment period and most of us geeks are fine. You learn it in college, you get no hands on, and you forget all the crap you learned and end up googling stuff anyway. I've seen it quite a few times with fresh grads.

Use it or lose it. I'd be lucky to remember how to configure a Cisco 3600. Use a T-Berd? Forget it, haven't touched one in years. Wish I had time to renew my CCNA tho. Living in BFE really hurts for a geek. No damned options for a tech job, or the ones that do have openings are pretty serious about the 10 year experience requirements.

AMEN TO THAT!!!

Seriously, it's the truth. They want you to have experience, but how do you get any...with a seriously lack of entry level jobs that want the world. Yet at the same time, you try to get certifications to add to your resume, and then your overqualified and looked at as a "paper MSCE/CCNA".

it's almost a lose/lose.

Seriously, you go to college, then can't find jack...and you forget half of it.

[pavilionnotebook]

I can see why engineering is difficult to fill. I know that from my search for an entry level/internship position for this summer that there are positions out there. Of course, it doesn't help that a lot of companies are looking for people with with a Masters degree or higher with a current PE license, who have 5-10 years of experience in that particular field (but NO MORE than 10...I've seen that in countless ads) and who are willing to work for next to nothing. Putting "MUST have 5+ years experience with Pro/Engineer" in the ad isn't cool either, considering that there is more than one popular solid modeling and CAD suite on the market, and that someone looking for an entry level position isn't likely to have 5 years experience in anything. [rolleyes]

[Vapepreab]

Meh they're all man's jobs, that means 50% less of the capable market, and men are getting softer nowadays doing BS studies like psychology or management.

[c2siOlIk]

lol, ive done 2 out of the jobs listed there.

And i agree with the rest of you, its not that the jobs are tough, its that the companies dont want to pay for talent. Yet when some barely trained monkey comes along and stuffs everything up then they cant understand why [rofl].
The saying of pay peanuts and youll get monkeys has never been more correct.

[valensds]

$11/Hr
3 1/2 Weeks of paid vacation time.
Excellent Medical, Dental, Vision benefits

Qualifications: Highschool education, home PC, internet connection, phone

Work at home customer service.


Seriously... WTF is with employers wanting qualified geeks for $11-$15/hr when you can get a cake WORK AT HOME job paying similar with awesome benefits. Sure, the job will probably suck since most customer service jobs do.

When SQL becomes fun you know you are a helpless geek.

Inner joins can go to hell. I got so annoyed I wrote a program to build it for me because I kept doing it wrong.

[erelvenewmeva]

That is very smart to let your workers do support work at home, no need for office space and hardware.

[bypeTeenehalT]

That is very smart to let your workers do support work at home, no need for office space and hardware.

There are a lot of jobs that could be done at home...but if they can be done from home.....they can be done from...somewhere else.

The moment somebody from someplace else announces that he/she (or their children) will be glad to do the job for three dollars a year and the promise they wont be beaten (much) those jobs would be gone.

Edit: The only jobs I think are even marginally safe in the current environment are those that must be done by people on-site or in-country, and I tend to believe that that fact alone is the primary reason big business is pushing so hard for work Visas.

[nuveem7070]

Considering i've been looking for a solid IT Support/Technician job and how hard it is to find a good IT based job around the East Midlands, they must have made a mistake.

[ArrichMer]

Considering i've been looking for a solid IT Support/Technician job and how hard it is to find a good IT based job around the East Midlands, they must have made a mistake.

Not at all, you're looking for a good IT job. These stats are from companies would want to employee from a temp agency (and I'm assuming at low low wages).

[nuveem7070]

Not at all, you're looking for a good IT job. These stats are from companies would want to employee from a temp agency (and I'm assuming at low low wages).

Mate just got a job for £34,000 a year purely because his mate runs the IT department at a company, hopefully it's going to hook me up as well

[SiM7W2zi]

I work summers a community computer lab while studying for my Comp. Sci. degree and I make $12 /hr. I would never expect a person with a degree to be starting at that! Considering what is costs to go to school (~$8000 a year TUITION ONLY here [thumbdown]), entry level IT jobs have to be much higher than $12/hr.

[thargeagsaf]

Google! It can solve anything.

I would have agreed with that until about 1am last night as I tried to figure out how to restart a certain AS400/ICC sub system. I do generally find Google to be useless when it comes to ICC.

[pavilionnotebook]

I work summers a community computer lab while studying for my Comp. Sci. degree and I make $12 /hr. I would never expect a person with a degree to be starting at that! Considering what is costs to go to school (~$8000 a year TUITION ONLY here [thumbdown]), entry level IT jobs have to be much higher than $12/hr.

Only $8000 a year for tuition? Wanna trade tuition cost with me? Mine just went up to around $27k for next year. I'm happy this should be my last year there, with maybe a class or two remaining. Even with scholarships and grants, I am soooo not looking forward to paying off my loans. I'm going to be one poor engineer for quite a few years after I graduate.

[bypeTeenehalT]

Jobless rate jumps 5.5 percent in May

You would think there would be a ton of people out there looking for any given job..........

[SiM7W2zi]

Only $8000 a year for tuition? Wanna trade tuition cost with me? Mine just went up to around $27k for next year. I'm happy this should be my last year there, with maybe a class or two remaining. Even with scholarships and grants, I am soooo not looking forward to paying off my loans. I'm going to be one poor engineer for quite a few years after I graduate.

27k?! Like, Yen? What the heck kind of program are you doing? We pay the highest tuition in the country (Canada) and its ridiculous, but 27k, sheesh!

[Intockatt]

27k?! Like, Yen? What the heck kind of program are you doing? We pay the highest tuition in the country (Canada) and its ridiculous, but 27k, sheesh!

No kidding. I think I paid something like 4k a year at my college. But I didn't have to worry about dorm rooms or anything extra, just tuition and books. But about 90% of that was covered by Scholarships and Grants. So I don't need to pay back any of the money.

[pavilionnotebook]

27k?! Like, Yen? What the heck kind of program are you doing? We pay the highest tuition in the country (Canada) and its ridiculous, but 27k, sheesh!

I wish it were Yen. Mechanical Engineering at a private university. This was actually the cheapest option I had available to me for a 4 year degree in engineering, since I save money by commuting to school and because of the scholarships and grants that I had received. It was at 16k when I applied 4 years ago. I plan on taking my Fundamentals of Engineering exam this coming spring just so that I can make a little extra on my first job. Even if I never get my license, the little bit of extra that just taking that exam can bring will help quite a bit.

[DailyRingtone]

I have BSEE in Electrical Engineering with major in Electronics and Communication

Digital Phone Systems Administrator for major cable company
$61k

It WASN'T easy to get this job AT ALL [no], I stayed 2 years making $15/hr in the customer service tech support[thumbdown]...was the WORST job EVER.

After getting experience within the cable system, I was able at last to move up...during those 2 years I was the most depressed person....just imagining after 5 years engineering degree and all the hard work..working in customer service..