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Old 04-06-2008, 10:40 PM   #1
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Default Does North America have anything similiar to hooligans in sports?
With the upcoming Euro in mind yesterday I watched a great (british) documentary about hooligans during the World Cup 2006. And they really arent a british problem, or a german problem only, they are european problem. Even the smaller countries as far as the population go have them like Switzerland or Poland. Or is it a football problem? Because South/Central America has them too.

I forgot the name of the documentary but they had "undercover" hooligans in the crowd who filmed all the stuff that went in within the crowds. Very interesting and disturbing.

One could say its more of a social problem, but then again the US or Canada have alot of low lives to, yet no hooligans at NFL or MLB games. Watching professional sports seems to be alot more family orientated in North America compared to Europe. But then again I dont know any tennis or Formula One hooligans in Europe either. So we're back at the sport itself.

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Old 04-06-2008, 11:04 PM   #2
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With the upcoming Euro in mind yesterday I watched a great (british) documentary about hooligans during the World Cup 2006. And they really arent a british problem, or a german problem only, they are european problem. Even the smaller countries as far as the population go have them like Switzerland or Poland. Or is it a football problem? Because South/Central America has them too.

I forgot the name of the documentary but they had "undercover" hooligans in the crowd who filmed all the stuff that went in within the crowds. Very interesting and disturbing.

One could say its more of a social problem, but then again the US or Canada have alot of low lives to, yet no hooligans at NFL or MLB games. Watching professional sports seems to be alot more family orientated in North America compared to Europe. But then again I dont know any tennis or Formula One hooligans in Europe either. So we're back at the sport itself.

Thoughts?
no, US really doesn't, unless you wear an opposing jersey in the city of brotherly shove. In that case you are likely to be accosted by several fat, smelly, cheestake eating idiots. Otherwise it is typical hecklers and drunks. sometimes things happen in the nfl related to crowds, and unsurprisingly it mostly happens in Philly, but for the most part crowds in the US are tame.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:03 AM   #3
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It is a football (soccer) problem. The sheer support behind football means that it's always going to be a problem. We don't have these sort of problems with other sports. Rugby, Cricket etc.

It's also worth mentioning that football hooliganism isn't anywhere near as bad as it was in the 70s/80s.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:11 AM   #4
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Every once in awhile we have a minor sports riot on the field after College Football games where they'll tear down the goal posts or something. It's a celebratory thing.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:28 AM   #5
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the closest thing would be parties in cities that win championships (or colleges) that get so wild it turns into a riot. You don't have groups of thugs going from city to city with the sole purpose to fight though.

Imo, hooligans is not a futbal thing, more like a futbal culture thing. It seems like with international matches, and intersectional rivalries, the passion is so intense, especially when you have nation vs. nation type scenarios. I think that rivalry and hatred (for those stupid enough to hate another person because of the team they support) just carries over into hooliganism. I don't know why europe has it and N. America doesn't, the only thing I can think of is the international element that just elevates things.

Of course there is intersectional violence too like Celtic v Rangers, Man U v Man City, River Platter v Boca... and those seem to have a real class warfare type element.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:32 AM   #6
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Poland is definitely one to watch on the Euro Hooligan front. I lived next door to a guy in uni who was Polish and he said football crowds tend to be very violent and very racist. And lets not forget our friends in South America, there are some brilliant (well...scary) footage on YouTube of various pitch invasions, crowd troubles, referees being chased down etc....

I think whenever you have a mixture of sports, men and alcohol there will inevitably be trouble, although given that football matches ten to attract the biggest audiences I'm not surprised this is where the biggest trouble is.

Plus, lets face it, we were good at it, and it made up for the under-achieving, overpaid losers on the pitch.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:15 PM   #7
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i remember seeing a video clip on some TV program of when there was a pitch invasion at nottingham forest FC and the then manager brian clough whacked one of the fans lol
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:29 PM   #8
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Hooligans in my opinion are just retarded. So what if your team loses? Not like it's the end unless you bet your entire live savings to that one football game and you've just lost it all. But to get all crazy and rioting because other team won is just stupid.


In my opinion, football is so over rated. But because there is just a large base of fans you can't deny that it is definitely a popular choice in sport. (Mr. Obvious). Football just doesn't have good sportsmanship. It's a case of "You beat us, we'll destroy everything", or "You support the other team, we'll kick the **** outta you"

I mean that riot that happened in Manchester. What the hell was the point? It was just a bloody game. So they won? Live with it. They're obviously born losers if they can't deal with the loss.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:33 PM   #9
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English are #1 hools and always were. Heysel, Belgium Liverpool FC vs Juventus in '85 springs to mind.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:00 PM   #10
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What do you consider hooligans, people who start the fights & riots?
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