[ggandibazz]

As I was driving to the store to buy some pepsi, I began to think (I have 20/20 vision) will TV ever look as sharp and as good as my eye sight can pick up light and color??

I live in denver (A suburb of denver) and spring time here means LOADS OF COLORS. And the trees blooming on my front yard are almost at their peak!!! I love the colors.

I have a 40in LCD tv and I love the IQ on it, BUT, it is NOT compared to what I see when I look out my window or walk out my front door......My question is....how long will (if ever) take for a display to capture lighting and colors like nature intended? If Im amazed now at how good tvs display HD, what would I expect in 10 years??

[IronpumpedLady]

Well supposably the new laser tv's can cover 120% of the color gamut so that is more than what we can see. I guess maybe camera's or media just needs to catch up?

I don't know though, I would guess that theres probably more to the way we perceive things to look than just what a picture could show.

[DailyRingtone]

quad hd is the next thing they will be pushing (aka Super Hi-Vision). rumour has it that the 2012 olympics are going to be shot in super hi-vision for display on large purpose built screens in london

[brilkyPlayday]

Well supposably the new laser tv's can cover 120% of the color gamut so that is more than what we can see. I guess maybe camera's or media just needs to catch up?

I don't know though, I would guess that theres probably more to the way we perceive things to look than just what a picture could show.

Yup - there's that & then the next resolution standard is going to be quad HD... so called because it has 4 times as many pixels as 1080p... it's also known as 2160p & the resolution is 3840x2160

[cinggooft]

Well supposably the new laser tv's can cover 120% of the color gamut so that is more than what we can see. I guess maybe camera's or media just needs to catch up?

I don't know though, I would guess that theres probably more to the way we perceive things to look than just what a picture could show.

I thought LCD/Plasma was 50% of colour that the human eye can see and Laser being 80% of what the human eye can see?

[kjanyeaz1]

we are going to get 100000 x 500 pixel widescreen tv, just like a railroad, because the wider it get, the better it is

[brilkyPlayday]

we are going to get 100000 x 500 pixel widescreen tv, just like a railroad, because the wider it get, the better it is

Sarcasm doesn't work very well on the internet

[Unoloknovagog]

The problem more or less revolves around bandwidth and storage capacity. Television is shot in 720p/1080i, but there would have to be an incredible amount of bandwidth to allow for a 1080p picture, and even more for a higher resolution. Blu-ray allows for 1080p output, but that comes at a cost of a 25GB/50GB disc. I highly doubt that we'll be seeing anything higher than 1080i on OTA broadcasts any time soon.

[brilkyPlayday]

The problem more or less revolves around bandwidth and storage capacity. Television is shot in 720p/1080i, but there would have to be an incredible amount of bandwidth to allow for a 1080p picture, and even more for a higher resolution. Blu-ray allows for 1080p output, but that comes at a cost of a 25GB/50GB disc. I highly doubt that we'll be seeing anything higher than 1080i on OTA broadcasts any time soon.

Tv broadcasts... highly doubtful.

The talk of the 2012 olympics being shot in 4k would be for dedicated lines to screen in london - which would of course be able to cope with the bandwidth.

As for getting 4k HD on blu-ray... it steps a little over the mark at the minute. While it would be possible to get it on a 50gb disk - current blu-ray video streams at about 25mbps from the player & with 4 times the pixels, it would need 4x the bandwidth... so 100mbps. The problem there is, current blu ray readers are only able to read at 80mbps. So either an increase in reader speed or a better compression format would be needed

[Unoloknovagog]

Tv broadcasts... highly doubtful.

The talk of the 2012 olympics being shot in 4k would be for dedicated lines to screen in london - which would of course be able to cope with the bandwidth.

As for getting 4k HD on blu-ray... it steps a little over the mark at the minute. While it would be possible to get it on a 50gb disk - current blu-ray video streams at about 25mbps from the player & with 4 times the pixels, it would need 4x the bandwidth... so 100mbps. The problem there is, current blu ray readers are only able to read at 80mbps. So either an increase in reader speed or a better compression format would be needed

Apparently, the Quad HDTVs have fantastic scalers, so perhaps even 1080p content would look even better. Also, these TVs might finally give us all a reason to have Quad SLI setups for gaming

[ElisasAUG]

Isn't there a limit on how much resolution we really need, though? My eyes aren't that good, and from 10 feet away (typical viewing distance), it's a challenge for me to discern 720P content from 1080P (when two different broadcasts are in use).

[brilkyPlayday]

Apparently, the Quad HDTVs have fantastic scalers, so perhaps even 1080p content would look even better. Also, these TVs might finally give us all a reason to have Quad SLI setups for gaming

well... 4x the nunber of pixels = 4 pixels to 1 pixel, which is perfect for scaling.

So... 1080p content on say a 50" 4K screen, should look the same as it does on a 50" 1080p screen... although the new 4k screens will probably have improved colour gamuts etc.

[brilkyPlayday]

Isn't there a limit on how much resolution we really need, though? My eyes aren't that good, and from 10 feet away (typical viewing distance), it's a challenge for me to discern 720P content from 1080P (when two different broadcasts are in use).

My eyesight's not all that good (the tv's slightly blurry from where i sit), but at 8-10 feet from the screen I can still tell the difference between 1080p and 720p

I doubt I'll be able to discern the difference from that distance between 4k and 1080p though

[Unoloknovagog]

I doubt I'll be able to discern the difference from that distance between 4k and 1080p though

Well maybe not for live action content, but I'm certain that Crysis running at 4k would quite possibly make me **** my pants

[ggandibazz]

So these quad HDs are still in development??

[alecaf]

Higher contrast displays are the immediate future, and they will make a much larger IQ difference than another resolution increase.

[brilkyPlayday]

So these quad HDs are still in development??

Nope - they're already available - with a very limited amount of content - but as you can imagine... they're incredibly expensive

Well... the projectors are commercially available at least - I don't think the tv sets are yet.

[Aleksis]

Quad? Interesting way of putting it. It is actually indeed 4k.
2k = 2048 horizontal pixels, and 4k = 4096 horizontal pixels.

In the digital film world there are already cameras out there that can do 4k, such as the 'Red One' camera (which I have used a couple of times and is a truly amazing camera in terms of resolution, but a pain in the butt because it still has a few issues such as overheating), or the F23 (which was the camera they shot Cloverfield with, and I think does full 4k, but I am not 100% sure).

So basically, they are already making films with 4k, and have been for some time... we are just waiting for the consumer viewers market to catch up!

[yahyynzer]

[/I]In the digital film world there are already cameras out there that can do 4k, such as the 'Red One' camera (which I have used a couple of times and is a truly amazing camera in terms of resolution, but a pain in the butt because it still has a few issues such as overheating), or the F23 (which was the camera they shot Cloverfield with, and I think does full 4k, but I am not 100% sure).

So basically, they are already making films with 4k, and have been for some time... we are just waiting for the consumer viewers market to catch up!

The Red One is indeed 4k resolution however the CineAlta used in Cloverfield is 1080p. In regards to waiting on the consumer viewer market to catch up with resolutions that is true but we are also waiting for the resolution increase in digital theaters. Almost every single digital theater in the US uses Christie, Barco, and NEC DLP projectors running at 2k. I think it still might be some time before we start seeing Sony's SXRD (LCoS) 4k units becoming more wide spread. Last time I checked Germany was the leader in the amount of screens utilizing 4k projectors.

[adoreorerie]

Too bad there is less and less content worth watching.