[Slonopotam845]

...and need some help

I used to have a Nitro RC car going back a few years, but had to sell it due to the neighbors didnt like it zipping up and down the street at night.... infact, nor in the day.

My dad just got home from work, and along with him, he had one of those little indoor palm helicopters... Its transmited via infa red, its a neat little thing and only cost £15.

Ill admit, it took a good half hour before we had a stable control of the heli, as its only got up, left and right... to make it come down, you just release the throttle.... But what fun we have had! We have chased the cats around the house, made a little course where we have to assult around obstetrical.... and we both grown me! [thumbup]

So i got thinking.... How about the proper versions... I have had a quick look on ebay for some rough prices, and found some for £150 battery operated, and £400+ nitro....

Which will be best? We have a school field 30 yards away, and access to plenty of open land too with a short 5 min drive... Im looking for some fun, but at the same time... not paying over the odds...

Best to go for battery or nitro?

And which version/model do you recommend?

Cheersssss [thumbup]

[Toivaluadiora]

I'd go with battery powered one first purely becuase they're less powerful, smaller, and if you crash it, it'll be easier to repair - dont want to bust an engine. I'll have to dig up some names for some good starter ones, cant remember the names off the top of my head.

[Oberjej]

Real RC helis are extremely difficult to fly, and if you try to fly one right away without the proper training, you WILL crash it.

You might want to look into a trainer or a RC flight sim program for your PC first.

[IoninnyHaro]

Electric helis are not less powerful. They can be a lot more powerful than nitro helis. I wouldn't touch nitro with a 50 foot pole personally. The awful sound and mess is not worth it. If you want to fly indoors I would recommend getting one of those coaxial lama helis, but they aren't any good outside. A Trex 450 for example is a great little heli. If you want to go bigger I can recommend a Century Swift which is really cheap and has low part prices.

Here's my biggest heli. It's not insanely powerful but it's ok. I'm not really showing off the power well here: http://www.enrarot.net/videos/eco16/eco1609.wmv

[CHEAPSOFTOEMONLINE]

Real RC helis are extremely difficult to fly, and if you try to fly one right away without the proper training, you WILL crash it.

You might want to look into a trainer or a RC flight sim program for your PC first.

Seconded, i have had Realflight G3.5 For months now, its an excellent simulator, i have recently found a Trex 450SE for it

I just recently ordered a Belt CP as my first heli, hopefully it will get here before christmas

Everyone says you should get a fixed pitch to start as they are almost unbreakable but i dont think a Fixed pitch helicopter would help you fly a ccpm(this basically is a helicopter with a rotor head that can tilt in in any direction and also tend to have a constant headspeed so control of the heli is done through changing the pitch of the blades on the go). A sim would help you understand how difficult it will be to eventually fly one, between delicate controls required and getting used to different orientations etc, So i decided to take the money i was going to spend on my first heli and bought an excellent simulator. i am definitely ready to attempt my first hover with a ccpm heli.

Do not buy an expensive heli as your first though as repairs will cost you a fortune. after i get used to my belt cp and limit my stupid crashes im going to upgrade it with carbon fibre, metal upgrades, new motor and esc, servos and eventually invest in a different transmitter.

And definitely do not buy a nitro as your first. they are in a different league than electrics. A nitro used in non capable hands could have extreme consequences, even fatal. you will need to know what your doing with a nitro and anyone that attempts to get a nitro as they're first should get someone else who knows exactly what they are doing to help train you and familiarise yourself with the heli.

A good heli electric or nitro is just a tiny version of the real deal, and will require care and considerable upkeep to maintain. I know this already and my first hasnt even arrived.

Although having that said powerfull electrics are also extremely dangerous, paired with the fact that you use lithium batteries to power them make them even more dangerous and a serious firehazard, on bad crashes and even charging them. its important to know how to treat lithiums

[IoninnyHaro]

A fixed pitch heli flies much the same way as a collective pitch heli (CCPM is just a rotor control system variant for collective pitch) if it's a conventional heli and not one of those coaxial helis. Fixed pitch helis are good for beginners because they don't have the high rpm and have fewer parts that break in a crash. I fly both fixed pitch and collective pitch helis.

[CHEAPSOFTOEMONLINE]

My belt arrived yesterday. i am very suprised at the size of this thing, its definitely not for indoor use anyway

Here is is in comparison to a pint glass i had handy


And here it is in comparison to that crappy little Silverlit Gyrotor i have had for ages:

[Slonopotam845]

WOW!!!! Looking awesome!!! Im gonna wait for after xmas, until i get some finances sorted. The size if something unreal!

Thanks for the pictures [thumbup]

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

[GOLAGLULT]

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/RC-Helico...-RTF/p-70-624/

nice vid of a belt in action

[mirzaterak]

Those bigger RC Heli's will kill you or someone else if you don't treat them with respect.

I used to fly Nitro (my preference) but a good electric is fine, battery is expensive on the initial outlay but it's cleaner than Nitro and over many flights works out not to bad.
You will need a few batts to keep going though, but Nitro just sounds better

You will crash it, every learner does but if you have the funds it's about the best hobby in the world apart from maybe owning and flying a real one [thumbup]

Get a decent sim for the PC, it helps a fair bit and will save you money in the beginning (less crashing). You can sell it on ebay when you're done.

One more thing, try to find someone who knows what the hell they're doing to give you pointers.

Good luck, I think you'll love it [thumbup]

[chuecaloversvvp]

My belt arrived yesterday. i am very suprised at the size of this thing, its definitely not for indoor use anyway

Here is is in comparison to a pint glass i had handy


And here it is in comparison to that crappy little Silverlit Gyrotor i have had for ages:

I'm also flying Esky Belt-CP and I can confirm that it is a super RC heli to fly.

[CHEAPSOFTOEMONLINE]

I'm also flying Esky Belt-CP and I can confirm that it is a super RC heli to fly.

Im having some trouble setting it up, initialy it was the tail rotor rotating the heli counter clockwise so i tried adjusting the servo location to compensate a few times but i didnt have any luck so i decided to move onto tracking the pitch of the main blades and am still having no luck.

I make them worse and a little bit better but no matter how many adjustments i make they still will not run in track

Its a pain setting these up trial and error sucks because they have to be precise and i never know if im making it better or worse until i re plug in the battery and test it

This could definitely kill someones interest in flying heli's

[chuecaloversvvp]

Tail servo arm should be at 90 degrees when tail on the TX is centered. The ring on the tail axis should be at aprox. center position. Check the belt tension. It shouldn't be to lose or to tight.

Tracking for a beginner is basically trial and error. You'll get the hang of it.
Make sure to balance your blades first.

[IoninnyHaro]

Here's a video of a powerful, large electric helicopter to show you what I meant earlier. http://www.theastonisher.com/ChrisHarmon/FILE0002_0.wmv

[KaterinaNJq]

quadrocopters FTW!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYPO...eature=related