[horoshevapola]

2012 Unlimited philosophy
7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16 billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating. (see Mayan Calendar Central)

Is there any scientific data that backs this up? Found it pretty intresting

I've never really understood a lot of the 2012 thing and find it impossible to believe that we will pass through dimensions or other things like that. I will not however deny the fact of Armageddon


Anyway about other life...
Why is it assumed that earth-like habitats are the only types available for supporting life? Even in the earth, there are new organisms found everyday that are breath-taking and sometimes seem impossible to exist such as the undersea creatures that are found living in deep sea trenches or by hot spewing methane pipes (maybe not methane but hot gasses). If there is intelligent life, I think it would be almost near impossible to find just because of the vast distance of communications and the factors of technological advancements. Who knows, maybe we are the only "intelligent free-thinking" life forms in the universe but there are other animals in galaxies.

[whimpykid]

In my Astronomy class, our teacher said that if there were more plants with life, there would only be 4 of them in our galaxy. Used some crazy calculations.


Though, I don't really care if there is more life out there or not. Better to not find out then to go looking for it.

[Gazeboss]

• Conditions for life such as that one the earth are extremely rare
• Intelligent civilizations destroy themselves before they ever develop the ability to colonize other star systems
• No other civilizations exist
• Extra terrestrial life exists but we cannot communicate with them or see them
• We have not communicated with other civilizations because of the size of the galaxy. The milky way is approximately 100,000 light years across and 1,000 light years thick, therefore, any civilizations in the milky way are too far apart to communicate using radio technology. (A radio signal from one end of the galaxy to the other would take 100,000 years to cross the galaxy.) This problem is also compounded by the idea that other civilizations may not survive for long periods of time.
• Other civilizations have chosen to to colonize the galaxy because of the high cost of colonization.
• Other civilizations do not want to communicate with us. The earth is being monitored, but left alone.
• We ARE the alien civilization. Life on earth came from an alien ship sent to colonize the earth.

I'll go with choices B & G for the price of one civilization, Alex.

The proof there is intelligent life is that we can't find it. Human beings are, after all, fairly dumb creatures.

Our minds are capable of so much, yet because of "social norms" we limit the way we think, not to mention following silly laws created by "smart minds".

[DadaSeeva]

[/list]I'll go with choices B & G for the price of one civilization, Alex.

The proof there is intelligent life is that we can't find it. Human beings are, after all, fairly dumb creatures.

Our minds are capable of so much, yet because of "social norms" we limit the way we think, not to mention following silly laws created by "smart minds".

Well if we told the Japanese that theres a planet with sexy school girls and alien tentacles, we'd be going faster than the speed of light in no time.[rofl]

[medio]

0.125 according to my equation


Rate of star formation in the galaxy = 1
Fraction of starts with planets = 0.5
Number of earth like planets/star = 0.01
Fraction of earth like planets where life develops = 0.25
Fraction where intelligent life develops = 0.01
Fraction where communication develops = 0.5
Lifetime of civilization after reaching radio communication = 20000

[Gazeboss]

Well if we told the Japanese that theres a planet with sexy school girls and alien tentacles, we'd be going faster than the speed of light in no time.[rofl]

Hey, I'm all for the sexy school girls. [thumbup] Plaid skirts up to the buttcheeks FTW!! [thumbup]

I could do without the tentacles, though. [thumbdown]

[attlawqa]

If the universe is infinite therefore every imaginable scenario is possible.
If the universe is infinite therefore every imaginable scneraio is real and happening.

I'd like to think we are not alone in the universe. Unfortunately as long as the universe is not quantified I cannot decide wether I believe we are the only ones or not. Both theories are equaly true to me.

I'll go sleep.

[Adeniinteme]

If the universe is infinite therefore every imaginable scenario is possible.
If the universe is infinite therefore every imaginable scneraio is real and happening.

I'd like to think we are not alone in the universe. Unfortunately as long as the universe is not quantified I cannot decide wether I believe we are the only ones or not. Both theories are equaly true to me.

I'll go sleep.

I believe the first and most obvious flaw in your theory about the universe is that matter is not infinite. Just being able to imagine something does not make it possible or real.

[ChebuRAtoR]

I believe the first and most obvious flaw in your theory about the universe is that matter is not infinite. Just being able to imagine something does not make it possible or real.

True, the universe is only so big.

But that's where you can start having fun with alternate reality. Does it exist? Don't know, but if it does, it truely could be infinite.

[pipojambo]

Well, if you believe in dark matter, and accept the fact that the material universe we live in represents only about 4% of the actual "stuff" the universe is made of, and that this other "stuff" that comprises the other 96% of the universe seems to interact only gravitationally with the rest of the universe, then we might be looking at this question from a completely wrong, egocentric perspective.
There might be zillions of weird, exotic civilizations out there, but perhaps they are dark matter civilizations, much to busy to interact with the weird little freaks of nature that are matter civilizations.

Or not [yes]

[nuabuncarnigo]

you boost the most intriguing scenario so far. Yours might be true