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Old 03-26-2007, 07:54 PM   #41
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I know that! I was trying to think of a historical film, that perhaps isn't all that historical, and that was the first one that came to mind. Bad example on my part, I should have gone with Tron.

And they did wear armour, but not full body armour as the reviewer was insinuating. The way the review was written it sounded like he took offence to the fact that man skin was on display. God knows what he would have thought if they were wearing a skirted tunic.
Tron?
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM   #42
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Tron?
Yeah, based on the Lightcycle season of 1979 isn't it? hehehe...tron
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:43 PM   #43
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Yeah, based on the Lightcycle season of 1979 isn't it? hehehe...tron
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:05 PM   #44
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And they did wear armour, but not full body armour as the reviewer was insinuating. The way the review was written it sounded like he took offence to the fact that man skin was on display. God knows what he would have thought if they were wearing a skirted tunic.
Yeah it is an odd tack to take. I mean if I wanted to critique the film from a historical perspective I wouldn't pick on the armour. The more disappointing part is the disappearance of all the other Greeks who fought along side the Spartans at thermopylae a bit like making the Alamo and omitting all the Engish, Scots and Irish but then I guess you'd have to rename it 5000ish.
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:17 PM   #45
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Yeah it is an odd tack to take. I mean if I wanted to critique the film from a historical perspective I wouldn't pick on the armour. The more disappointing part is the disappearance of all the other Greeks who fought along side the Spartans at thermopylae a bit like making the Alamo and omitting all the Engish, Scots and Irish but then I guess you'd have to rename it 5000ish.
Yeah, 300 (plus a few thousand labourers). Not quite the same ring I guess.

Given its the Daily Mail I'm surprised they didn't praise the film for showing 'The Horrors' of illegal immigration.
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:56 PM   #46
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I think that what made the movie so powerful at times is that they focus on and on again that there were 300 Spartans and that the Spartans were the uber elite.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:15 PM   #47
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I think that what made the movie so powerful at times is that they focus on and on again that there were 300 Spartans and that the Spartans were the uber elite.
That, and Leonidas was Scottish.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:23 PM   #48
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Allegory hunters can find these same exact themes in goddamn Disney movies, people need to lighten up.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:19 PM   #49
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I don't care what anyone else says, I thought the film was great, an amazing showcase of cinematography, although a bit thin on the plotline.

I guess that makes me one of those violence loving, ignorant, simple minded movie goers right? If that's the case then I'd rather stay that way, because it means I can enjoy watching great action movies like this without having to make up a load of pedantic non-sense to make myself appear intelectually superior to the masses by opposing the general consensus about a film.

I guess next time they should start films like this with the words "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..." and avoid a crap load of criticism from all those self proclaimed film critic/historians out there.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:49 PM   #50
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I went to see it on Saturday, knowing previously that it's just 2 hours of blood and flying limbs, and i enjoyed the hell out of it! If you watch a film like this and actually take it seriously, then i feel very sorry for you.

This is a definite buy for me, hopefully in a HD format by the time it hits video release. It's one of those films that's great to stick on with a few mates and a few beers and just enjoy the action. [thumbup]
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:29 AM   #51
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That movie friggin' rocks. Saw it again last week. It's not intended to be historically accurate, rather it's an adaptation of a graphic novel (as the original poster said). To pick out it's historical inaccuracies would be missing the point. Even the co-writer director said that they took an actual event and turned it into mythology in order to get the essence of what a Spartan is, as opposed to the reality of it. It's more of a fantasy movie than a history movie. Frank Miller just wanted to emphasize the battle culture of the Spartans in a graphic way, not make a documentary...
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:15 PM   #52
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I don't remember lots of controversy over ancient egypt when "The Mummy" came out.

Seriously, why do they care about what a fictional film portrays a 2500 year old society as? Do we have people protesting the portrayal of the US or europe, etc. differently than they are?
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:12 PM   #53
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Just as an aside on the armor, they probably would have worn full armor. Ancient poets go to great lengths in describing the glory of a particular soldier's armor and the stripping of valuable armor from dead soldiers. Was the armor truly as great as they describe? Did chosen men wear armor forged by Hephaestus? Probably not. Elite soldiers probably would have worn full bronze armor, though, including a cuirass, greaves, a helmet, an oxhide shield (with or without bronze), etc. Common soldiers might have worn leather armor or even worse.

As I understand it, most soldiers would have brought their own armor to war. It was often inherited, sometimes over several generations, and/or at some point possibly acquired by stripping it off someone you had killed. Spears were also inherited and a good spear would have been an object of tremendous value. They were up to 16 feet in length - imagine yourself carrying a 16-foot long ash pole with a bronze spearhead.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:37 PM   #54
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Methinks you have been playing too much Titan Quest
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:24 PM   #55
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Who cares , as long as the action rocks . I like the shouting/screaming of Spartan too , especially when Leonidas give the messenger a good shout , and kick him into the hole . Classic .
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:47 PM   #56
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The scene just after the initial Persian attack where the Spartans led by Leonidas move forward to "mop up" the remaining attackers is seriously bad ass, watching Leonidas do his thang is slowmo is classic stuff.

And then... the next scene is a real cliffhanger! :P
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:29 PM   #57
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To be honest, I can't say the adverts want me to even go and see it.
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:39 PM   #58
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To be honest, I can't say the adverts want me to even go and see it.
No, the adverts probably don't want you to go and see it.
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:55 PM   #59
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