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Old 02-21-2007, 09:17 PM   #41
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Translation:
"I can't parallel park" [rofl]
[rolleyes] Yeah obviously explaining why its difficult means i cant do it.
I guess i should come to expect these kind of stupid replies from some people here.

You guys are calling women drivers crap, but I bet you if i took you to a busy city in my area 1 out of ten of you would be able to actually parallel park where i tell you.
Any damn idiot can park in a full size parallel bay so dont think youre special or something, but if you lived in the real world youd know that its a pain in the ass to parallel park. Its hardly something to laugh about.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:19 PM   #42
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[rolleyes] Yeah obviously explaining why its difficult means i cant do it.
I guess i should come to expect these kind of stupid replies from some people here.

You guys are calling women drivers crap, but I bet you if i took you to a busy city in my area 1 out of ten of you would be able to actually parallel park where i tell you.
Any damn idiot can park in a full size parallel bay so dont think youre special or something, but if you lived in the real world youd know that its a pain in the ass to parallel park. Its hardly something to laugh about.
Not really.
Either you can parallel park or you can't.

...and I live in London.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:21 PM   #43
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ninja dude....chill.

I was only kidding.

Don't take it so damn personal.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:38 PM   #44
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Not really.
Either you can parallel park or you can't.
...and I live in London.
Dont be ridiculous, "either you can or you can't" ...you read that from the inside of a fortune cookie ?
There are varying degrees of difficulty for these things..why do you think there are good drivers, average drivers and bad drivers ?

And oh so you live in London, wow youre so l33t at parking...(/sarcasm). London is like a playground compared to some other places in the world my friend. All London has is extreme traffic congestion, but its still very ordered in the city and well policed.

ninja dude....chill.

I was only kidding.

Don't take it so damn personal.
I was not taking it personal, i just find the fact that everybody here thinks they are soo much better than the average woman laughable, im not a girl and IMO men are worse drivers because THEY ALL THINK THEY ARE SO GOOD.
Every time i witnessed moronic driving...there was a guy behind the wheel of that vehicle, so i tend to disagree.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:52 PM   #45
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I CAN Parallel Park my motorcycle perfectly fine [rolleyes]
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Old 02-22-2007, 12:58 AM   #46
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Dont be ridiculous, "either you can or you can't" ...you read that from the inside of a fortune cookie ?
There are varying degrees of difficulty for these things..why do you think there are good drivers, average drivers and bad drivers ?

And oh so you live in London, wow youre so l33t at parking...(/sarcasm). London is like a playground compared to some other places in the world my friend. All London has is extreme traffic congestion, but its still very ordered in the city and well policed.
LoL dude you are so cunning...

Keep your sarcasm, smartass. What I was implying is that some people have very poor spatial awareness while some have no problem at all. The maneuvre is very easy as such if you know your car, nothing to write home about. And don't go teaching me about large places in the world, kid. London was an example as well just so I could bring over the point that I was not living in the middle of nowhere where you have to wait half an hour to see the next car.

Child.

EDIT: oh and for the anecdote my wife is very good at parallel parking... I was not even mentioning anything about women being worse drivers than men.
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Old 02-22-2007, 01:05 AM   #47
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Parallel parking is pretty difficult
Eh, I'm going to have to disagree here. Parallel parking is pretty easy as is pretty much any part of normal driving.

Wait, are you female?
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:27 AM   #48
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Sometimes after watching the comments posted in this thread, I am sad to be part of the male gender.

Parallel parking is difficult. Impossible? No, but it it does require a great deal of awareness compared to highway or residential driving.

Also, if the spot does not have enough room then there is no way to maneuver a car into a spot. There simply isn't enough room without turning it into a 30pt maneuver.

Also, some cars are easy to pparallel park. My Escort is so easy its not funny. My Kia Sephia is harder because of the high trunk line and door sills. My TransAm is a PITA because of the low seating position, high trunk line, long overhangs.

Good driving is mostly awareness and confidence.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:11 AM   #49
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Perhaps it's because a womans brain is smaller than a man's? /borat
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:55 AM   #50
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It also helps that men generally don't panic as much as women.
I'm sure (fairly) that most women are just as capable as men at parking and driving in general, But the reason they get into trouble is because they panic, and once they start to panic, they get into more trouble, because of that panicking.

You only have to look at the first video that I posted, to see its true.

The woman driver is trying her hardest to get into that space, and after the first of second attempt (at most),
Most men would conclude, that the car would not fit and they would find somewhere with a bit more space,
But this women is stubborn and keeps on trying, But the longer she takes, the more she gets frustrated,
as you can see by her trying to get the car into the proper gears (so her clutch control is suffering too), then she puts her hand outta the window presumely telling some guy in a black coat to f*ck off and stop watching her,
cos its making her more nervous, and each time she tries to reverse into the space she is taking to wide an angle of approach and thus ends up with the rear of the car too far out into the road.

Eventually she gives up, after 4 minutes and drives off to find somewhere with probably a bit more space.

Personally I would have given up after the second attempt to get it there, cos I could clearly see from the angle of the video recording that there was no way she was gonna get in that space in that car, She'd need a smart car or an old Austin Mini (First "The Italian Job").
Then she might have gotten in.

The other problem, is, that women are stubborn, and will try and fit a car somewhere just cos their stubborn enough to "make" it fit.

Like 4 foot from the kerb, or 2 foot on the pavement or just go the "whole hog" and park it in a convenient shop window.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:13 AM   #51
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The woman driver is trying her hardest to get into that space, and after the first of second attempt (at most)............
The other problem, is, that women are stubborn, and will try and fit a car somewhere just cos their stubborn enough to "make" it fit.
Yes, but she clearly is not representative of women, let alone women drivers. She's a nutter, but she's useful to you to portray your stereotype lapped up by the other misogynists round here.
THE_FRUITY_ONE hit the nail on the head with his first line [rolleyes]
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:49 AM   #52
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Yes, but she clearly is not representative of women, let alone women drivers. She's a nutter, but she's useful to you to portray your stereotype lapped up by the other misogynists round here.
THE_FRUITY_ONE hit the nail on the head with his first line [rolleyes]
which line...this one?

"My mother drives fine, my aunts drive fine. My sisters...they scare me." ?????????

Or the one that says no one could have parked in that spot.

Maybe his mother and aunt were standing behind him as he wrote that first line and his sisters were'nt.

I'm certainly not a "misogynist" either.

I just think that most women have'nt got a bloody clue with driving, and some of them should'nt be on the f*cking roads at all, But thats just my "survival instinct" kicking in, when I say that.

But maybe I've just experienced more badly driven cars with terrible women drivers than you have, and I've been driving cars for 8 years and motorcycles for 15 years, so either I've been terribly unlucky or I attract bad drivers to me.

Some, women and cars don't mix, especially women who drive Volvo's (I'm sure most UK motorcyclists here can vouch for that).

And before you accuse me of being a bad driver, in all honesty, I can say I've had one accident in a car at 5mph (I shunted a women driver)....lol.

And came off a motorbike 3 times, once on a newly gravelled road, once on a wet manhole cover and once on a diesel covered whiteline.

Lastly...I'd just like to say that some men drive like old women too, so they should get off the roads too. [rofl]
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:00 AM   #53
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which line...this one?

"My mother drives fine, my aunts drive fine. My sisters...they scare me." ?????????
Errr no, not yours. THE_FRUITY_ONE's line. His first.

I just think that most women have'nt got a bloody clue with driving, and some of them should'nt be on the f*cking roads at all, But thats just my "survival instinct" kicking in, when I say that. See? That's what I mean when I say misogynist
I've been driving 14 years, biking 3, and at least 3 of my four wheeled years were driving for a living all day every day and in all seriousness, the odds are pretty even.
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:15 AM   #54
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Errr no, not yours. THE_FRUITY_ONE's line. His first.

See? That's what I mean when I say misogynist
I've been driving 14 years, biking 3, and at least 3 of my four wheeled years were driving for a living all day every day and in all seriousness, the odds are pretty even.
This post here... you mean...

[QUOTE=THE_FRUITY_ONE;459629]My mother drives fine, my aunts drive fine. My sisters...they scare me.

No one could park that car (first video) in that spot nicely. It might be possible to get into the spot but not fully as there isn't enough room to maneuver.[/QUOTE]



Well I think I might just be a little ahead of you.
Spent nearly 2 years doing despatch riding in London and around Gravesend when I was about 17 yrs old, (the joke back then, was that Dispatch riders had a "lifespan" of 18 months).
Lets just say it was pretty bloody frightening at times and I very nearly lost a leg once or twice.
But it was Male Bus drivers with a total disregard for anyone that were nearly my downfall.

Drove a 2.5 tonne van around a few years ago, carrying glass (for a glaziers) and that was pretty tough at times.

So I've done my fair share of driving too, anyway only got one thing to say about women and that is, I was told once that a Women's place was'nt behind a wheel, But at home,

And that she should be a "mother in the living room, a "cook in the kitchen" and a wh-re in the bedroom", And that if I married a woman like that, I'd be sorted for life, And the funny this was, the Person who told me that joke was a woman and it was actually my Mother. (though I don't think she meant it literally), So I do like women, I just don't think they should be on the bloody roads. [cursing]
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:21 PM   #55
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Snoopy, you are posting a severe generalisation. Women are not poor drivers compared to men. Women are just as capable as men when it comes to driving. Women have similar success rates in the Air Force when it comes to piloting planes, somehow I doubt that driving a car is more difficult.

"They" tend to panic more. Who? Women. Another generalisation. I know plenty of women who are confident in themselves and react well under sudden pressure. Women are paramedics, and the stress of responding to a call is a bit more than driving as well.

Now, it is a well known fact that on average, men have more upper body strength than women. It is also known that Women have a lower center of gravity than men. These are physical differences that are proven when considering the average. There are exceptions though as well.

Now, some state that Men are smarter because of a larger brain. If so, how does it affect people of a smaller build. Just as there are tall men, there are tall women. I have met several women who are tall and small. A parent of one of the children I teach is 6' 4" tall. I'm 5' 11". She has 5" on me. One of my friends, is 5' 5" and he's a guy, but he's not less intelligent because of his size.

I don't like stereotypes at all. For all your vaunted experience Snoopy you come off as ignorant because you are taking a few extreme examples of women and grouping all women into the same category.
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:56 PM   #56
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Sometimes after watching the comments posted in this thread, I am sad to be part of the male gender.

Parallel parking is difficult. Impossible? No, but it it does require a great deal of awareness compared to highway or residential driving.

Also, if the spot does not have enough room then there is no way to maneuver a car into a spot. There simply isn't enough room without turning it into a 30pt maneuver.

Also, some cars are easy to parallel park. My Escort is so easy its not funny. My Kia Sephia is harder because of the high trunk line and door sills. My TransAm is a PITA because of the low seating position, high trunk line, long overhangs.

Good driving is mostly awareness and confidence.
Exactly, nice to see that not all the guys here are delusional.

And you point about the type of car is what i was saying as well, some cars are easy to parallel park, some make want to try and avoid doing it completely.
So some people can parallel park their Ford Ka or Opel Corsa easily, wow good for you...but not all cars are like that.
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:27 PM   #57
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I think you all need to agree to disagree. Both women and men can be bad drivers, neither of them are worse than the other. Men can have some pretty stupid driving, and so can women. Men think they are better behind the wheel and get cocky and think they own the road. And women are sometimes given a bad name for driving, but both are stupid mistakes. My brother in laws pick up was written off yesterday by a guy that passed his test 2 months ago, saw my brother in law on the roundabout but kept going anyway as he pulled out at a roundabout junction without looking, until he smacked into the side of the pick up and writing the saxo off. Now this is stupidity on the guys part more of a accident mistake but a mistake all the same, yes he has only been driving 2 months, but he passed his test, therefore he should be able to drive. Neither men and women are different when it comes to driving, just men just see the faults in the women, and when a fault with a mens driving is pointed out it has to be the womens fault(there must of been a woman there somewhere!)

I have seen men that can't drive, and dont know the width of their cars, i have seen men that can't park. And I have seen women that do exactly the same.

http://dan.hersam.com/archives/2007/...ly-bad-drivers
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