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Old 09-15-2012, 03:55 AM   #21
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Bear with me here, I may be stepping outside the box with this one. How about OHP follows the recommendations of a trained professional instead of the advice of randoms on a internet forum?
Mild depression is normal though. People get into ruts, which is a normal part of the human condition. OHP spent how long in the US away from friends and family? My point is, this does not sound like severe depression at all (the type that requires medication.) Sure, go ahead and listen to the professionals... but i'd tap the brakes on the medication crutch. They don't fix depression, meds just push the cause down the road to be dealt with later.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:36 AM   #22
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I agree. Plus 'professionals' may not have been depressed themselves where as people here maybe have, or even know someone who's been through the drug therapy at least.

I agree about sleep as well. Stick to 5-8 hours.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:44 AM   #23
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I agree. Plus 'professionals' may not have been depressed themselves where as people here maybe have, or even know someone who's been through the drug therapy at least.

I agree about sleep as well. Stick to 5-8 hours.
I'm sorry, but recent threads indicate that you should not be commenting on threads concerning mental wellness.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:58 AM   #24
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I'm sorry, but recent threads indicate that you should not be commenting on threads concerning mental wellness.
What about me ?
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:05 AM   #25
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What about me ?
If anyone on these boards is qualified to give mental health evaluations and advice it would be you Bear. Keep doing what you do big guy.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:00 AM   #26
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Bear with me here, I may be stepping outside the box with this one. How about OHP follows the recommendations of a trained professional instead of the advice of randoms on a internet forum?
I think people that have experienced what OHP is going through will often be of more help than a lot of professionals.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:17 AM   #27
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I'm sorry, but recent threads indicate that you should not be commenting on threads concerning mental wellness.
Oh yeah I forgot free speech is banned in American, sorry.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:49 AM   #28
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Medication is sometimes needed for depression, especially long term depression. One of the ways it presents is by chemical changes in the brains makeup, medication helps level out these imbalances. This means they can then begin to help themselves. It's not always as simple as just doing some exercise and getting a good nights sleep, often, depressed individuals cant even bring themselves to do simple things, like getting out of bed, getting washed or just going for a walk. This is just mild depression too, because the longer you've had it, the harder it becomes to change it. Info. More info.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:27 PM   #29
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I used to go to a therapist. I have major depressive disorder and avoidant personality disorder. She was useless at finding a solution.
Same here, except I would not call it a disorder but rather a personality trait that I need to work on because it does me no good.

If my psychiatrist was any good, he would have forced me to socialize more so I find a female companion (the non-physical part is important here). Instead he gave me pills, while they somehow work they do not fix the root cause.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:46 PM   #30
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I used to go to a therapist. I have major depressive disorder and avoidant personality disorder. She was useless at finding a solution. The best solution is sleep. If you're not at work, and you're not playing video games, you should be sleeping. Sleep is my anti-drug.
If you have avoidant personality disorder, then you would feel that way about whoever you talk to though. That's the side of it you need acknowledge and combat yourself. You feel uncomfortable with any sort of social interaction, which would include therapy, so your mind will come up with excuses as to why you don't need to do it. The therapists aim should have been to try and get you to see this. I suspect they were concentrating on your depression first though, in which case sleeping may not always be the best solution, as it can be used as just another way to avoid social situations, you convince yourself that sleeping will do more good than going out and interacting with people, but that can have the side effect of deepening your depression and reinforcing the avoidant disorder.

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Same here, except I would not call it a disorder but rather a personality trait that I need to work on because it does me no good.

If my psychiatrist was any good, he would have forced me to socialize more so I find a female companion (the non-physical part is important here). Instead he gave me pills, while they somehow work they do not fix the root cause.
Therapists don't force people to do things, they have to choose to do it themselves, their job is to get you to recognise the destructive side of your problems, acknowledge how they are negatively affecting you, and then to slowly coerce you into deciding to take the appropriate steps to helping yourself. They plant the ideas, but want you to have the realisation in your own time.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:54 PM   #31
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If you're not at work, and you're not playing video games, you should be sleeping. Sleep is my anti-drug.
I envy people who can sleep whenever they want to. I'm bad at sleeping.
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:44 AM   #32
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You feel uncomfortable with any sort of social interaction, which would include therapy, so your mind will come up with excuses as to why you don't need to do it.
My therapist was terrible. She was also full of **** and tried to deny basic human emotions that not a single person I've ever met would agree with. In a nutshell if your business partner cheated you out of your stake in a business and then the business failed if you took the slightest pleasure in it you're the only person in the world to ever do so and you're a bad person for it. She kept bringing up God way too often and I'm agnostic. It's as if God should be the solution to all my problems. Whenever she used God as a solution and I reminded her I'm not a believer she just changed the topic because God was the only suggestion she had. Shortly after I stopped seeing her (like 2 weeks) she quit or went somewhere else.

In fact, now that I think about it, I'm kind of disgusted by her. I don't necessarily have a beef with religions, but people with issues and who are unsure of themselves go to therapists and a therapist who pushes God so strongly is doing the most disgusting thing a religious zealot could do, and that's to prey on people in need and push religion on them.

I envy people who can sleep whenever they want to. I'm bad at sleeping.
I have a bit of insomnia, but when I do fall asleep I can sleep for quite a long time. I fell asleep at 5:00 AM this morning, and I just woke up at 1:30 PM. Although sleeping is part of depression I've ALWAYS enjoyed sleeping. I think it's the only time I truly feel relaxed.

Same here, except I would not call it a disorder but rather a personality trait that I need to work on because it does me no good.

If my psychiatrist was any good, he would have forced me to socialize more so I find a female companion (the non-physical part is important here). Instead he gave me pills, while they somehow work they do not fix the root cause.
The best way to socialize is to be the DD. You'll get invited to parties, etc., because you DD and it's an easy way to make friends and acquaintances because people like it when you do them favors. Plus I don't enjoy drinking much anyway.

It's also a personality issue. Women are...women. A perfect example is last night when I was DD'ing for someone's 21st. I got to watch slightly dorky (but overall decent) guys try to hit on this chick while the douchey guy ended up taking BOTH girls home, and I'm assuming they had a 3-some. Talking to and socializing with women in the hopes of forming a relationship is tricky because many say they want a nice guy, but being a nice guy usually doesn't work. Volunteering is a decent way to find decent people, but the downside is many of them are already with someone.

Many people think it's stupid, but on-line dating is good for people who get anxious in social situations. You can always chat with and get to know someone before meeting them, and while there are some crazies on there a good bit of the women I know that have tried it did it because they got tired of picking up useless guys at the bar and they're trying to find someone who they're likely to be compatible with rather than just hoping some random guy shares their interests. Downside is people tend to get overly picky as if they're shopping on-line. This guy is kinda cute and sounds great but he could be cuter, and he needs to be a neurosurgeon who loves kids, has a mansion, etc., etc. Once again... Women...

It's still hard though. Even when I convince myself to go out to bars or something I have a hard time talking to people, I get nervous, etc. It's hard to overcome without alcohol, but alcohol really isn't a solution. If you really want to socialize be a DD, do volunteer work, etc. Honestly volunteer work is the better option to start with because those people typically tender to be nicer more outgoing people and your conversations aren't drunken conversations about ninjas invading tacobell.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:48 PM   #33
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My therapist was terrible. She was also full of **** and tried to deny basic human emotions that not a single person I've ever met would agree with. In a nutshell if your business partner cheated you out of your stake in a business and then the business failed if you took the slightest pleasure in it you're the only person in the world to ever do so and you're a bad person for it. She kept bringing up God way too often and I'm agnostic. It's as if God should be the solution to all my problems. Whenever she used God as a solution and I reminded her I'm not a believer she just changed the topic because God was the only suggestion she had. Shortly after I stopped seeing her (like 2 weeks) she quit or went somewhere else.

In fact, now that I think about it, I'm kind of disgusted by her. I don't necessarily have a beef with religions, but people with issues and who are unsure of themselves go to therapists and a therapist who pushes God so strongly is doing the most disgusting thing a religious zealot could do, and that's to prey on people in need and push religion on them.
Ah well, in that case your reaction is understandable. Remember though, not all therapists are the same, in my time working with many of them i've only known one to be religious, but he used to make a point of avoiding the subject, unless it was brought up by the patient. Don't let it put you off seeking help in the future, if you feel the need.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:17 AM   #34
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one thing for sure you'd never see a scientologist therapist/psychologist
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:45 AM   #35
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What about a Analyzer/Therapist ? In short a Analrapist, yes I totally stole that from AD.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:50 AM   #36
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What about a Analyzer/Therapist ? In short a Analrapist, yes I totally stole that from AD.
I've never understood why people go to see someone whose title is The Rapist and expect to get help.
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