[aburva.org]

That's nearly everyone though. The days of benching your computer until it catches fire are gone. Maybe I'm getting older, but I want my smartphone to get on the internet, send messages and make calls and I don't really care if it can be programmed to switch off my lights. It's the same with most of my gadgets. I like new technology, but I don't want to spend ages configuring it before I can play with it.

For the people that you describe, the whole question of Android version updates and the speed with which they are delivered is a moot point and so is this entire argument. For people such as this, there is no waiting on releases or updates. They may not even know what version of Android their device is running, what versions of Android are available, or even what model of device they have. The device they have is the one they have and it's likely not all that different from an iPhone in terms of what it can do and how easy it is to use.

For these people, Android is an ideal know-nothing interface. The real power of Android is not what you can do vs. Apple's what you can't or vice versa. It's that Android can be anything you want it to be - it's a different product depending on who has it in their hands. For the know-nothing user, it's a simple, friendly and powerful UI. For tinkerers, whatever is delivered on the phone happens to be a skinnable and highly-customizable UI that you can make your own. For power users it's a platform where you can install the OS version you want from a selection of many. For hackers it's an open source project that you can customize at any level to suit your tastes. For OEM's it's a powerful set of tools on which you can build your personal brand.

Android empowers each of its end users to the maximum possible extent, whoever those end users may happen to be. That's why Android exploded onto the market and why it continues to grow like gangbusters - it targets every possible user on Earth with its flexibility.

The biggest problem is that sometimes the end user is a large telecommunications corporation that couldn't care less about its own customers, so long as it has them locked into contracts.

[Gabbavnf]

For the people that you describe, the whole question of Android version updates and the speed with which they are delivered is a moot point and so is this entire argument. For people such as this, there is no waiting on releases or updates. They may not even know what version of Android their device is running, what versions of Android are available, or even what model of device they have. The device they have is the one they have and it's likely not all that different from an iPhone in terms of what it can do and how easy it is to use.

For these people, Android is an ideal know-nothing interface. The real power of Android is not what you can do vs. Apple's what you can't or vice versa. It's that Android can be anything you want it to be - it's a different product depending on who has it in their hands. For the know-nothing user, it's a simple, friendly and powerful UI. For tinkerers, whatever is delivered on the phone happens to be a skinnable and highly-customizable UI that you can make your own. For power users it's a platform where you can install the OS version you want from a selection of many. For hackers it's an open source project that you can customize at any level to suit your tastes. For OEM's it's a powerful set of tools on which you can build your personal brand.

Android empowers each of its end users to the maximum possible extent, whoever those end users may happen to be. That's why Android exploded onto the market and why it continues to grow like gangbusters - it targets every possible user on Earth with its flexibility.

The biggest problem is that sometimes the end user is a large telecommunications corporation that couldn't care less about its own customers, so long as it has them locked into contracts.

To be honest, I can't remember what the argument was originally about. This sounds sensible though, so lets adopt it.

[Flirigor]

Good luck with the battery life on that...

No kidding, playing a game the battery is dead in no time and it gets very warm.

Not far from a charger though on a normal day so not a big deal, obviously if I need battery life I can just change my overclock profile to something more conservative.

So what if you don't agree? It's obvious from reading your previous points on things that you're not much one for thinking

This is a tech forum. Of course the bias will be for customising on here, but out of the gazillion tablets sold, about 1% will be to people who want to mess around with how they work. Deal with that.

Your boring me now!!

[yazetaw]

Meh, I'm running my Galaxy S3 overclocked, 1.8GHz CPU and 540MHz GPU.

Not because I need too, but because I want too.

That is cool. I am sure a mild overclock at that.
Tegra 3 has hit 2GHz and even the S3 Snapdragon has hit 2GHz on the CPU. I am sure being 28nm, the S4 can clobber the 40/40nm products .

I'd love to know how high each can go. Do the gpu/cpu overclock together or are they independent of each other? Also, what tool do you use?


Once I get mine in, seem what kind of limits I can push it too.

[Gabbavnf]

Your boring me now!!

It's you're, not your.

[Flirigor]

That is cool. I am sure a mild overclock at that.
Tegra 3 has hit 2GHz and even the S3 Snapdragon has hit 2GHz on the CPU. I am sure being 28nm, the S4 can clobber the 40/40nm products .

I'd love to know how high each can go. Do the gpu/cpu overclock together or are they independent of each other? Also, what tool do you use?

Once I get mine in, seem what kind of limits I can push it too.

There independent, I'm using Siyah Kernel and Stweaks to overclock.

You can also use Tegrak which only requires root and is available from the market, but it doesn't support GPU overclocking on the S3 yet.

It's you're, not your.

I dont care.

[Gabbavnf]

I don't care.

Fixed that for you.

[Nifoziyfar]

I can run my GNex @ 1.8ghz cpu and 512mhz gpu. Do I win the internets?

[yazetaw]

Fixed that for you.

HEyyy playa,, ur $uppOSEd Taaa uS Red

[outsitWrord]

This is a tech forum. Of course the bias will be for customising on here, but out of the gazillion tablets sold, about 1% will be to people who want to mess around with how they work. Deal with that.

That is not a real statistic, why do you constantly post lies?

[JMLot]

That is not a real statistic, why do you constantly post lies?

Oh noes! What tipped you off? The "gazillion" figure?

[Gabbavnf]

That is not a real statistic, why do you constantly post lies?

Why do you only pop up with an idiotic comment from time to time?

For starters, all statistics are skewed in some way and secondly I never said it was anything other than a best guess.

[outsitWrord]

Why do you only pop up with an idiotic comment from time to time?

For starters, all statistics are skewed in some way and secondly I never said it was anything other than a best guess.

blah blah blah, more lies from your self to constantly attempt to place yourself in the right.

[Gabbavnf]

blah blah blah, more lies from your self to constantly attempt to place yourself in the right.

If you're dumb enough to take "a gazillion iPad's" as an official statistic then that's your look out.

[outsitWrord]

If you're dumb enough to take "a gazillion iPad's" as an official statistic then that's your look out.

more lies

[r5YOPDyk]

more lies

I haven't the foggiest idea how you managed to answer simple questions like enter your email address when registering an account here.

[AndyScouchek]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/26201...as_apples.html

[oplapofffe]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/26201...as_apples.html

"our product is inferior" "no, it's just as good as ours"

[Nifoziyfar]

The Woz

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-galaxy-s.html

“I hate it,” Wozniak said when asked about the patent fights between Apple and Samsung. “I don’t think the decision of California will hold. And I don’t agree with it -- very small things I don’t really call that innovative.

[CIAFreeAgent]

The Woz

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-galaxy-s.html

I was just going to post this.