[Smittoh]

Check out the Flickr page, especially the comments:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philips...er/7849863818/

[Elelaytet]

And yet somehow Apple trying to protect their patents is stifling innovation.

[Smittoh]

And yet somehow Apple trying to protect their patents is stifling innovation.

Fortunately for Philips, I am not sure anyone even buys landline phones anymore. I don't even have a landline!

[Elelaytet]

I think landlines are still popular with ironic hipsters.

[Doncarlito]

Need to have a landline for DSL here, but I only answer calls on it; plenty of minutes on my mobile; should I get the need to call another landline, I may use it from time to time, though.

The side looks very similar, and the top half is very much inspired.

But TBH, this is just how fashion works.

[Acciblyfluila]

Not sure about the states but over the pond a landline is still pretty much in every home over here.

However much I dislike Apple and their legal war against all competition that really does look like an iphone with a few extra buttons... Shame on Phillips

[casinobonuscxz]

that really does look like an iphone with a few extra buttons

In that case, this:

looks exactly like:

... cause it's squarish with rounded corners, has 4 wheels, 6 windows, a steering wheel and pedals for control.

What we need to make sure is that only one company can produce something like that. Everyone else would have to reinvent it... maybe they don't need to have doors, or maybe the driver can wear the engine on their head... maybe tracks instead of wheels, or have 7 wheels. After all, one company came up with the idea of building a box on wheels, with convenient hand and foot controls inside, so they should be the only one allowed to produce such a device.

[Smittoh]

... cause it's squarish with rounded corners, has 4 wheels, 6 windows, a steering wheel and pedals for control.

What we need to make sure is that only one company can produce something like that. Everyone else would have to reinvent it... maybe they don't need to have doors, or maybe the driver can wear the engine on their head... maybe tracks instead of wheels, or have 7 wheels. After all, one company came up with the idea of building a box on wheels, with convenient hand and foot controls inside, so they should be the only one allowed to produce such a device.

It's not nearly the same.

[casinobonuscxz]

It's not nearly the same.

But in many ways it is. At one point early in the 20th century, the UI for cars was wildly varied, and mostly nearly unusable. One company came up with the idea of having 3 pedals - clutch,brake,gas, and a gear shift lever. This company does not exist. If you take Apple's ideas about the patentability of design, this company should have been the only one making cars, since they created the best UI, which everyone copied.

[Elelaytet]

But in many ways it is. At one point early in the 20th century, the UI for cars was wildly varied, and mostly nearly unusable. One company came up with the idea of having 3 pedals - clutch,brake,gas, and a gear shift lever. This company does not exist. If you take Apple's ideas about the patentability of design, this company should have been the only one making cars, since they created the best UI, which everyone copied.

It's a stupid comparison. Just because certain features become industry standards doesn't mean a company shouldn't protect patents for stylistic industrial designs they spent millions to develop. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and Samsung was clearly in violation of serious patent infringement.

[cingularring]

It's a stupid comparison. Just because certain features become industry standards doesn't mean a company shouldn't protect patents for stylistic industrial designs they spent millions to develop. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and Samsung was clearly in violation of serious patent infringement.

I don't want to have to take a phone training camp every time i try a new phone. It makes no sense not to standardize the way phones look or work. Samsung isn't using Apples software to make the UI anymore than that Ford above is using the Nissan's transmission. They look similar, work similar, but accomplish this feat differently, and we the customer are better for it.

[CIAFreeAgent]

This picture is appropriate here.



Apple didn't even come up with most of the ideas they are suing other companies over.

And their litigious ways aren't good for anyone but apple, for people to defend them is kind of ludicrous and definitely fanboi-ish.

[Elelaytet]

Apple didn't even come up with most of the ideas they are suing other companies over.

And their litigious ways aren't good for anyone but apple, for people to defend them is kind of ludicrous and definitely fanboi-ish.

http://androidcommunity.com/who-was-...nked-20110420/

Nope.

[CIAFreeAgent]

Nope.

To one thing....wow, that suddenly makes Apple's anti-competitive practices perfectly fine, and wonderful for consumers!

[Elelaytet]

To one thing....wow, that suddenly makes Apple's anti-competitive practices perfectly fine, and wonderful for consumers!

That was the most startling claim and it happened to be the first thing I fact checked. Can't be bothered to go over the rest.

[CIAFreeAgent]

That was the most startling claim and it happened to be the first thing I fact checked. Can't be bothered to go over the rest.

Then gtfo fanboy.

[Elelaytet]

Then gtfo fanboy.

Never once owned an Apple product. I just appreciate Apple's design philosophy.

I am tempted to spring for an iPad though.

[jokilewqs]

In that case, this:

looks exactly like:

... cause it's squarish with rounded corners, has 4 wheels, 6 windows, a steering wheel and pedals for control.

What we need to make sure is that only one company can produce something like that. Everyone else would have to reinvent it... maybe they don't need to have doors, or maybe the driver can wear the engine on their head... maybe tracks instead of wheels, or have 7 wheels. After all, one company came up with the idea of building a box on wheels, with convenient hand and foot controls inside, so they should be the only one allowed to produce such a device.

These two cars would be a better analogy of Apple vs Samsung in the car world:

[Smittoh]

This picture is appropriate here.

Apple didn't even come up with most of the ideas they are suing other companies over.

And their litigious ways aren't good for anyone but apple, for people to defend them is kind of ludicrous and definitely fanboi-ish.

Nice strawman, but that is not what Apple was suing over and definitely not what they won the case over. They won the case because of internal Samsung memos such as below:



Above you can see a specific comparison between a Samsung phone and the iPhone with internal Samsung designers making a decision specifically to be 'more like the iPhone' (similar to Gates' direction in 1985 to the Windows team "make it more like the Mac").

Here is another example - End Call. Unlike what Gnius is arguing, this is nothing to do with functionality, it's to do with ripping of better design. When people ask "why do you prefer Apple products", it's because they're better (see below), or at least they're better until the competition copies them and sells it for less.



Again, this is from an internal Samsung memo directing engineers to literally copy the iPhone. It's not about the BS Strawman of 'copying rectangles' or anything else you and the Google/Samsung apologists want to pull out of their ass, it's about ripping off better design, because Apple have better designers.

So comparing cars and saying they're all boxes and have wheels; well that's like all phones have a screen and are basically a rectangle. That's not why Samsung lost a $1bn case. They lost, because their own documents proved they copied many things from the iPhone. The above examples are 2 out of more than 100.

[eduptultyt]

What will be next ? Apple invents breathing in and out ? Then patents it ?