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Old 05-25-2012, 03:17 AM   #1
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Default What evidence is needed for a rape conviction?
Plea bargaining
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:18 AM   #2
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Innocent people plea guilty because fighting it in court will result in a tougher sentence.

What evidence is needed to convict someone of rape? The woman's word is sufficient.


Plus he was a teenager so he could have been pressured.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:31 AM   #3
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I was worried that this thread was another sad episode in Alby's love life
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:58 AM   #4
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I was worried that this thread was another sad episode in Alby's love life
Is it sad that I assumed Albie was going to claim that he'd been raped?
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:29 AM   #5
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Is it sad that I assumed Albie was going to claim that he'd been raped? By a woman? Surely you jest.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:01 AM   #6
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Brian Banks, now 26, pleaded no contest 10 years ago on the advice of his lawyer... MORONS... Both him and his lawyer.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:41 PM   #7
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He said... She said... and he knew he didn't do it... I'd roll the dice on that one.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:48 PM   #8
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Start with the fact that rape conviction rates are tiny.
My first thought was... WTF? I've heard that actual convictions rates for rape in the US are as high as 58%. I've see much lower figures, but nothing I would consider tiny.

But then I found this chart... yes, it is old, but now I know where you are coming from.

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Old 05-25-2012, 05:56 PM   #9
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The conviction rate of those that go to trial in the UK is 58%.

BUT only 6.5% of rapes that are reported result in convictions.

And the Government estimates that 95% go unreported.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:53 PM   #10
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The conviction rate of those that go to trial in the UK is 58%.

BUT only 6.5% of rapes that are reported result in convictions.

And the Government estimates that 95% go unreported.
Those numbers sound consistent with the US
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:01 PM   #11
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I was always under the impression that the woman's word was virtually sufficient for a conviction unless you're Kobe Bryant. Jurors take alleged female victims at their word.

If that is not true it's a common myth. I saw this story on another board and that idea was repeated.
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Old 05-26-2012, 02:12 PM   #12
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The internet AND several regions of Philadelphia. That makes it a global myth, provided it's also believed by the UN.
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:31 PM   #13
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Let's put it this way, Albie.

Imagine you are a juror. In order to find him guilty, you must be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the accused committed rape. Is the mere word of the woman enough to do that for you?
I'm not most people.


And what about alleged sexual abuse of minors? Kids wield ridiculous power if they accuse adults of sexual abuse.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:44 PM   #14
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If people will trust what other people wrote 2000 years ago, I don't see why they shouldn't also assume a child is remembering events correctly.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:14 PM   #15
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2.1/10. Far too abrupt and nonsensical a transition.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:29 PM   #16
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He was facing a 41-to-life sentence if he didn't take a plea.

That's why innocent people take pleas. 5 years vs. taking a chance at 41 to life? So you can wind up like all the innocent people released after decades of false imprisonment?

Even though there was no DNA evidence, Banks’ attorney advised him not to take the chance of staying in prison until he was 57 years old.

“She told me I was a big black teenager,” he said, “and no jury would believe anything I said.”

Banks spent five years and two months in prison. He had another five years on probation. Banks had to register as a sex offender and wear an ankle monitor. http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...#ixzz1vzUC7pdJ
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #17
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This was earlier this year:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1402468.html

In 2001, an 11-year-old girl told a judge that her father raped her, sending the man to prison for nine years. Today, she admits that she lied.

Now 23-years-old, Cassandra Ann Kennedy says she made up the story because she was upset with her father following her parents' divorce, The Daily News reports.

Last week, authorities in Washington state finally released the father, Thomas Edward Kennedy, who was serving a 15 year prison term. All charges have been dropped thanks to the daughter's statement, made in January. Cowlitz County Prosecutor Sue Baur says that the county will not take legal action against Kennedy, partly because authorities do not want to discourage individuals who have, in fact, suffered from sexual harassment from stepping forward. Like I said, the woman's/child's word looks like enough evidence and there's no consequences for false accusations. The law may say otherwise but let's not act like juries don't have undue sympathy to alleged victims.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:49 PM   #18
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And what kind of hood rat name is Wanetta? Disgusting. Was Shrontrelle taken?
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