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Old 05-20-2012, 03:46 AM   #21
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Do you want to:

1. castrate him
2. enslave him and force him to work even more
3. cut off welfare for the children who need it

I guess we should wonder why the poor are allowed to reproduce at all
2. sounds great, this way we can prevent him from making more children without having to castrate him ... if he spends all of his time with hard labor, he doesn´t have the free time and energy to father more children
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:27 PM   #22
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You know, chemical castration as a prerequisite to welfare sounds like a better solution than putting kids in the orphanage. How expensive is it?
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:15 PM   #23
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If the Irish are having too many children, then just eat them. (The children, that is - the adults are too gamy)
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:32 PM   #24
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The first thing that needs to happen is removing the incentive to have more kids in order to get more welfare. Do what Texas does and cap it at 2-3 kids after which if you have more kids you don't get more welfare. Yes, that will mean less per kid making life difficult but it should be enough for them to survive and if not then the kids could always be taken by child protective services if their mother (I won't even pretend the father is involved with them) doesn't take care of them. It's a crappy situation but they put themselves in that position deliberately to try to work the welfare system. The abuse needs to stop.
He's not the one getting the welfare, the mothers are. If he's had 30 kids by 11 women then on the average each woman has had fewer than 3 kids by him so they may very well be under the cap.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:02 PM   #25
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What we should definitely do is decide all our social policy based on one really extreme example in a web story.
All social policy should be determined only after watching a hundred episodes of the Maury Povich show
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:09 PM   #26
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What we should definitely do is decide all our social policy based on one really extreme example in a web story.
The quantity of kids is the only thing that makes this extreme. Is there a difference between one guy with 30 and a boatload of men with 3-5?

I know a woman who is having a conflict with her child's father because, for lack of income, he is exempt from paying child support. He has 8 children. I saw his facebook where he posted the sonogram of #8 and read the comments where people were like what is this? your 10th? And he proudly said, 'my 8th wonder of the world'. Then later said something like 'some niggas drink or smoke. making babies is my thing'. I forget how many mothers he has but it was at least 5.

A guy I know is 19 and has 2 kids and 2 more on the way, each with different mothers.

This is normal, not extreme.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:20 PM   #27
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You don't live in a normal place.
Philly, NYC, Baltimore, DC, Chicago, Detroit, LA, NOLA, etc. etc.

This **** goes down all over the country. What's not normal?

Urban America is America. It has always been since 1776.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:26 PM   #28
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This case is in Hicksville, USA by the way. The country music capital.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:30 PM   #29
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Hicksville, USA is in Ohio.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:35 PM   #30
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Hicksville, USA is in Ohio.
And Bum**** is in Idaho
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:37 PM   #31
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So you consider a city with ~175,000 people "the country"?
Yes. That's a tiny population.

Even more relevant:

1,876.7 people/sq m

That's low density. Philly has more than 6x that density.

I will say though that Knoxville has twice the density of what the US gov't classifies as rural, though.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:42 PM   #32
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Yes. That's a tiny population.

Even more relevant:

1,876.7/sq m

That's low density.
Are you trying to prove that urban is not the norm by defining "urban" so that most Americans wouldn't qualify?
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:59 PM   #33
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Whoah, Deja Vu!
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:16 PM   #34
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There is no way the guy is surviving on 10 hours of minimum wage work per week so he has to be getting money from some where else. It's pure speculation but the guy is probably doing something illegal, like selling drugs, in order to make money off of the books. That would also explain why so many women agree to have sex with him even though he has 30 kids he doesn't take care of and 11 baby mommas which he knocked up and dropped. The women are probably drug addicts and he offers them free or discounted crack for sex which explains why he's knocking up so many hood rats. Failing that I suppose he really could just be the hood rat whisperer.
I know a guy like that. He is a total loser and douche, but women fall for him like cats for catnip.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:49 PM   #35
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He's not the one getting the welfare, the mothers are. If he's had 30 kids by 11 women then on the average each woman has had fewer than 3 kids by him so they may very well be under the cap.
Good point.
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