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Israeli Jews are hard-hearted but clear thinking people, they know what's good for them I suppose. Israel will still be around and a first world nation in 2100. Some EU members, Australia, Canada, USA ... not so much. |
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Exactly: "Good for them". They're not very accomplished in the good-will department. Israel does have a refugee program, and it doesn't discriminate by reference to ethnicity or faith. They also allow the children of illegal residents rights in certain circumstances. They're not bound to do either of these things, but they do them. Israeli NGOs and community organisations regularly provide assistance to illegal migrants along with legal refugees, for example. That's not an exhaustive list, by the way. I think they're more than well accomplished in the good-will department. I don't think they're hard-hearted at all. If they were, they wouldn't be accepting any refugees at all. |
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I think the implication is that a country with a large number of certain sorts of people is not going to be able to be successful. True? Yes as well I think. Seems reasonable to me to reason a third world population makes a third world nation. To not make a third world nation you'd have to be able to assimilate them properly and turn them into first world peopled. Israel can't assimilate Arab palestinians who don't look any different and don't have different norms than Middle Eastern Jews did when they first arrived in Israel. How are they supposed to assimilate African Muslims who are much farther culturally and also just plain look different? No country in Europe actually has managed to have a immigration and integration policy where nonWestern immigrants and their descendants aren't a net tax drain. Canada, to give credit where credit is due, has managed to do this, but only because its very picky about who it lets in, which brings us back to needing first world people (proper work ethic, education, norms, ability, ect.) to start with. |
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Euros seem to have a tendency to believe that Israel's existence at all is just a mistake, and therefore everything they do is hard-hearted. |
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which brings us back to needing first world people (proper work ethic, education, norms, ability, ect.) to start with. |
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Offensive? Yes. ![]() |
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oh, so you're jewish, and you feel the need to protect 'your own'. |
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Oh, so you think a substantial portion of immigrants are smarter than the average American, and another substantial portion are "not a problem", and you still think the US will stop being a developed country. Third world country, but its actually pretty well off as far as the global average goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20...Quartiles_.png Africa and places like Bangladesh are Third world **** holes. Where will the US find the funds to expand and update its infrastructure for its rapidly expanding population? The great financial strain of supporting both identity politics goodies and elderly entitlement? Its large expenses abroad? The US will not be a superpower because it simply won't be able to afford it. Standards of life as I say may still rise but the gains will be much smaller than the gains made by Japan, China and Korea or a hypothetical USA that deported all illegals and didn't have birthright citizenship. |
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i'm not going back to israel. the country gives me the creeps. there's people with guns everywhere, the continuous negotiation for everything is tiresome, and everybody's so bloody paranoid. |
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