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Old 01-05-2011, 11:41 PM   #1
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Default Would you please stop smugly bashing Hera?
As usual, European racism comes out.

And just so you know, Hera's claims are about average IQ being low. All the non-Chinese/Japanese/Koreans/Jews/Northern Europeans are inferior because they have low average IQ's and the smarter outliers will invariably have descendants who regress to their low means. To him, there is no cultural explanation; purely genetic.

What I find interesting is that his IQ data correlates with GDP per capita. He has a few exceptions like some of the small Arab emirates (though the Arab elite are a minority in these countries so I'm not sure who the national IQ represents), but for the most part, the middling countries as diverse as all the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean, Spain, Portugal, Greece, the Islamic world, the Balkans, Eastern Europe except for Poland, etc. all have average IQ's in the high 80's/low 90's. Then you have India and SE Asia with it in the mid-80's. Then sub-Saharan Africa in the high 70's. It's almost like if you had a scale and were comparing the economic wealth of each country, the IQ ranges would fit perfectly.

Call me stupid but it's obvious what's going on here but Hera and his racist ilk don't see it. We know it's not that the average IQ of the population is the cause for the low GDP per capita since there's a multitude of better explanations for the GDP disparities. Rather, the poverty of a country is influencing its average IQ's.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:04 AM   #2
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What I find interesting is that his IQ data correlates with GDP per capita. He has a few exceptions like some of the small Arab emirates (though the Arab elite are a minority in these countries so I'm not sure who the national IQ represents), but for the most part, the middling countries as diverse as all the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean, Spain, Portugal, Greece, the Islamic world, the Balkans, Eastern Europe except for Poland, etc. all have average IQ's in the high 80's/low 90's. Then you have India and SE Asia with it in the mid-80's. Then sub-Saharan Africa in the high 70's. It's almost like if you had a scale and were comparing the economic wealth of each country, the IQ ranges would fit perfectly.

Call me stupid but it's obvious what's going on here but Hera and his racist ilk don't see it. We know it's not that the average IQ of the population is the cause for the low GDP per capita since there's a multitude of better explanations for the GDP disparities. Rather, the poverty of a country is influencing its average IQ's.
You could probably thrown in a reference to the Flynn effect.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:51 AM   #3
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As usual, European racism comes out.
You're probably the most racist and ignorant ****wit on here.
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:01 AM   #4
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As usual, European racism comes out.
Please clarify, what exactly is European racism?
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:21 AM   #5
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I'm well aware of Russia's inferiority complex with Europeans. It's well engrained in your history. Some of your greatest leaders spent more time in Europe Proper than back in Asiatic Russia.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:11 AM   #6
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I mean, it's just too easy to call someone a racist and hide behind the PC shield, thereby forcing them to frantically disprove these allegations instead of discussing the point in question.
Or he could just recognize that some ****wits don't warrant his caring so much. I may exchange words with someone, but that doesn't mean I always care.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:24 AM   #7
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To be fair, DaShi is the only one who just calls him racist and doesn't say much most of the time. gribbler accused me of the same but I have been the one who has had the most back-and-forths with Heraclitus. The only difference is that I've grown tired of it. Fine, he changes his tune now and then when I prove something small that he claimed wrong (like Blacks having more testosterone than whites) but his overall outlook on the world is disgusting and he constantly cites and references known racist material (I'm not just talking VDare which is considered racist by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, but also more explicit Stormfront-associated blogs).
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:27 AM   #8
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Well more specifically what is different about European racism to your white-hood-wearing, black-hanging variety?

And the burkha banning was France, and only France. But we have Islam right on our doorstep unlike you, so it does create different circumstances.

But I get the feeling from the way you talk that it is just good old Philadelphia ghetto style racism/ignorance.
Islam right on your doorstep? Oh the horrors! Evil Islam! It's like the Battle of Tours or the Battle of Vienna all over again! Must repel the evil Mohammadean Saracens!
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:38 AM   #9
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Bullshit.
Oh really? That European blog wasn't racist? Remember that one?
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:50 AM   #10
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Oh really? That European blog wasn't racist? Remember that one?
The Swedish one? Yes it was racist, but I don't recall links to stormfront. There are implicit racists. Then there are racialists. And then there are ****ing internet racist tards that blame all their problems on other groups of people and spend time and energy hating them.

Also you seem to be forgetting that I didn't link to it, the story I linked to simply turned out to have originally originated there.

Considering all the sheer volume of the stuff I posted a fall in the mud like that was bound to happen and recall that I immediately apologised for that and dismissed the story.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:22 AM   #11
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Muslims are treated in western europe much better than christians in the middle east.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:30 AM   #12
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Too right. I don't want sharia law and for my wife to have to dress like a black postbox...
A black postbox? What do you have against blacks?
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:37 AM   #13
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As usual, European racism comes out.

And just so you know, Hera's claims are about average IQ being low. All the non-Chinese/Japanese/Koreans/Jews/Northern Europeans are inferior because they have low average IQ's and the smarter outliers will invariably have descendants who regress to their low means. To him, there is no cultural explanation; purely genetic.

What I find interesting is that his IQ data correlates with GDP per capita. He has a few exceptions like some of the small Arab emirates (though the Arab elite are a minority in these countries so I'm not sure who the national IQ represents), but for the most part, the middling countries as diverse as all the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean, Spain, Portugal, Greece, the Islamic world, the Balkans, Eastern Europe except for Poland, etc. all have average IQ's in the high 80's/low 90's. Then you have India and SE Asia with it in the mid-80's. Then sub-Saharan Africa in the high 70's. It's almost like if you had a scale and were comparing the economic wealth of each country, the IQ ranges would fit perfectly.

Call me stupid but it's obvious what's going on here but Hera and his racist ilk don't see it. We know it's not that the average IQ of the population is the cause for the low GDP per capita since there's a multitude of better explanations for the GDP disparities. Rather, the poverty of a country is influencing its average IQ's.
I'm so tired of this Alby.

North Korea high IQ
Jews emigrating from the Soviet Union high IQ
The children of the poorest Asian Americas do better than the kids of the richest Blacks on their SATs and every other measure of academic performance.
Northern Europe isn't a high IQ population.

I've never said all of the gap is entirely genetic, that would be retarded since the IQ gap between Blacks and Whites shrunk in the early and middle of the 20th century form 1.5 stdv to 1 stdv. All I've ever said is that we are seeing the effects of both environment and genetics here. I've stated that I think about 50% of the gap is probably due to genetics.



You could probably thrown in a reference to the Flynn effect.
I've talked about the Flynn effect until I was blue in the face, I was usually the first to bring it up. But people still cite it as some kind of massive trump. I won't bother restating info and arguments here.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:46 AM   #14
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Please stop referring to low IQ people as inferior.

Whether you believe in HBD or not, below average people are by definition half of the population. They deserve some minimal measure of respect and the same human dignity going to our most accomplished fellow humans.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:17 AM   #15
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Okay.

Now, Provost Harrison, I'd like to know how having a sizable minority of Muslims in your European countries leads to Sharia law and hijab when most women in the Islamic world are not forced into wearing any such things?

It's not even a new thing. I've seen photos of my grandmother and she didn't have any head coverings.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:21 AM   #16
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No, but the Kim family's official reported IQ is high enough that the rest of the country could be chimpanzees and the average would still be sky-high.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:55 AM   #17
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Just as long as there is a large enough wall to keep brown people out.
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:18 AM   #18
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I'd say that this has a lot to do with the minimization of the importance of Islam as well:

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Old 01-06-2011, 06:56 AM   #19
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I think people minimize the importance of Islam, perhaps because scientists tend to see religions as all the same. The golden age of many islamic countries coincided with the first centuries of Islamic rule during which much of the population had not yet converted to Islam, and then many things may have gone wrong. When the French colonized Algeria its population was smaller than in Roman Times.
Bullshit. Islam had conquered all of the Middle East and North African (as well as Spain) by 750. The Islamic golden age continued for centuries afterwards.

Really, the Mongol and Timurid invasions is what did a lot of damage to the Islamic world before a resurgence during the Ottoman Empire.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:20 AM   #20
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I don't know. Why don't you ask the British National Party and the 6% of British who voted them into 2 seats in the European Parliament?
FACT FAIL!

34% turnout of voters, 6% of 34% is about 2% of voters.

Still absolutely disgusting though I agree with that. There are some subtleties to British politics which I'll explain to you even though I'm sure you won't listen or understand. A large proportion of British voters see European elections as completely pointless, which is somewhat fair, the parliament has limited power. Many of them use them as an opportunity to give mainstream parties a kicking. There are also a large proportion of voters who don't think Britain should be part of the EU (ie. morons). A proportion of them will vote for any party that opposes us being in Europe. Which gives them 2 choices, UKIP or the BNP. UKIP are slightly posher, the BNP more working class. So whilst it's a vote for a disgusting overtly racist party, it's often an anti European Union protest vote.

When it comes to local elections, which BNP have as a major focus, and where they can win council seats and actually affect peoples lives, the voting percentage overall goes up to 65%, but the BNP only got 1.9% of the vote, which is 1.2% of voters. Which is mirrored for the general election.

Come to Europe, you'll be surprised. There are racial problems, sure, and we have racists. But there are everywhere. The millions and millions of people living together perfectly well never get a mention, but the few incidents do. And extremists are good at publicising their issues. Generally if you visit the big Western European cities you'll see they show little if any difference with big multicultural cities like New York or San Francisco. And you couldn't say that it's all racial harmony and light in the US, look at the proportions of young black men in prison. Or the comments from someone yesterday that they changed the law in Arizona to specifically stop police arresting someone just for looking Hispanic.

Is something like a Muslim riot in Paris any different from LA riots after Rodney King?

We're definitely not perfect, but nowhere is, and we're better than most places and improving all the time. Which is great.
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