[secondmortgagek]

Why? i often wonder how stupid or retarded someone has to be to have a SUV in NYC. I just took a walk to get away from my desk here in chelsea. Large parking lot, full of SUVS. I'm sure the 4 wheel drive really helps in the 5 mph traffic moving down broadway.

they say the lottery is a tax on the stupid, but its time we really did tax stupid people. 2000 bucks a year tax if you drive a suv in nyc. theres an idea i can get behind

[Pinkman]

I think NYers should be permitted to throw anything within reach at any SUV stuck in traffic that blares it horn.

It's almost always an asshole with NJ plates sitting all alone behind the wheel frustrated that the city won't get out of his way.

People driving Hummers should just be pulled out of the vehicle amd beaten to death.

[Forexampleee]

^ Hear, hear!!

Ditto for my city, which I had something to say about in another thread. Alas, the morons continue unabated and untaxed .

[doolarsva]

Hey! New York, is a concrete jungle.

[KahiroSamo]

Ditto for my city, which I had something to say about in another thread. Alas, the morons continue unabated and untaxed .

Is there a special classification for an SUV (4WD, AWD) in Australia?

In the US post WWII to the 70s, SUVs were called off-road vehicles or four-by-fours. Jeep, International Harvester, Land Rover. Since they were actually taken off the road, they were spartan by modern SUV standards. No deep highly polished paint job that was going to get scratched; no plush interior that was going to get muddy.

In the 70s, American Motors got its Cherokee model designated as a light truck, which exempted it from compliance with the Clean Air Act. Gasoline was cheap in the US, so fuel economy wasn't an issue. The more sensible minivan was becoming the family car, but it was regarded as boring after the heady days of the muscle cars.

Thus was born the SUV, marketed as an exciting alternative to the minivan - go off into the wilderness, be a man. Women became the predominant users, because it was similar to the practical station wagon or minivan. But it was a truck, with (unnecessary) high ground clearance, and inefficient.

Today, SUVs are a mixed bag. High fuel prices have made the inefficiency of the truck design an issue, so many models are becoming more car-like. Crossovers. Lower to the ground, some don't even have AWD capability, and those that do use the same systems that are on ordinary cars. They are headed full circle back to the...

Station Wagon


But the label still has negative marketing impact, so they are called CUVs - Crossover Utility Vehicles.

[mralabama]

I can't remember the last time I saw an original station wagon here. They used to be everywhere.

As far as I know, 4WDs aren't subject to a special classification here...unfortunately.