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Old 07-19-2012, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default Windows usability...
I'm not going to get into a which is better debate over OSX and Windows, but in terms of usability OSX is miles ahead. Every time I go onto a windows machine I end up frustrated with the amount of button clicks needed to do a simple operation.

Double click .exe file and you get "are you sure you want to open"...OK...."are you sure this file is safe?"....OK...."We need to verify you are an administrator"....**** OFF!!!
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:10 PM   #2
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I'm not going to get into a which is better debate over OSX and Windows, but in terms of usability OSX is miles ahead. Every time I go onto a windows machine I end up frustrated with the amount of button clicks needed to do a simple operation.

Double click .exe file and you get "are you sure you want to open"...OK...."are you sure this file is safe?"....OK...."We need to verify you are an administrator"....**** OFF!!!
You do realize you can disable all of that right?
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:18 PM   #3
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LOL OSX
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:28 PM   #4
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Ubuntu 12.04 is the most usable current desktop OS for me personally, if it wasn't for DirectX gaming, I wouldn't run Windows at all tbh.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:31 PM   #5
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LOL OSX
You've used it extensively of course.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:54 PM   #6
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You do realize you can disable all of that right?
Yes, but I'm working on the principle of being a casual user, not a power user.

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Ubuntu 12.04 is the most usable current desktop OS for me personally, if it wasn't for DirectX gaming, I wouldn't run Windows at all tbh.
It's a good OS, but I think we can all agree it isn't really commercially viable.

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LOL OSX
Worryingly, this is actually one of the more useful contributions I have seen from you.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:57 PM   #7
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I'm not going to get into a which is better debate over OSX and Windows, but in terms of usability OSX is miles ahead. Every time I go onto a windows machine I end up frustrated with the amount of button clicks needed to do a simple operation.

Double click .exe file and you get "are you sure you want to open"...OK...."are you sure this file is safe?"....OK...."We need to verify you are an administrator"....**** OFF!!!
As usual you are detached from reality and don't have the knowledge or experience with a specific product so you write it off as being crap. Get your head out of your ass.
That feature was put into place to prevent malicious programs from taking advantage of a users admin rights. You can turn it off anytime.




This feature should be off for power users and on for casual users/idiots like yourself
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:58 PM   #8
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This reminds me of something I've been wanting to post for a while.

I find the new iPad very frustrating at times. Don't get me wrong, it's a great little gadget. However, a few things have actually annoyed me over time:

- lack of USB
- Safari browser is weak. Often doesn't display pages properly (especially if there are forms to fill in)
- Lack of support for printing over anything other than airprint compatible devices is just retarded
- the options to browse the appstore are few and too generic
- I haven't tried to sync anything yet with any other device but I'm pretty sure that anything other than iTunes probably won't be supported
- ...

I'd love to be proven wrong, but that's what I've been experiencing after about 3 months' use.

PS: I am a Windows user. Never had any Apple product except for an old iPod Shuffle and this new iPad.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:01 PM   #9
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As usual you are detached from reality and don't have the knowledge or experience with a specific product so you write it off as being crap. Get your head out of your ass.
That feature was put into place to prevent malicious programs from taking advantage of a users admin rights. You can turn it off anytime.

Are you really so dense that you don't know the meaning of the word usability? Will someone please save this c**t from himself???

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This reminds me of something I've been wanted to post for a while.

I find the new iPad very frustrating at times. Don't get me wrong, it's a great little gadget. However, a few things have actually annoyed me over time:

- lack of USB - it's a legitimate beef, but not one something that has personally bothered me.
- Safari browser is weak. Often doesn't display pages properly (especially if there are forms to fill in) - it's not very good (for the reasons you list, and more). Thankfully Chrome is now available.
- Lack of support for printing over anything other than airprint compatible devices is just retarded - it's a legitimate beef, but not one something that has personally bothered me.
- the options to browse the appstore are few and too generic - Agreed, it's a pain. I also hate that installing an app dumps you out of the app store.
- I haven't tried to sync anything yet with any other device but I'm pretty sure that anything other than iTunes probably won't be supported - I wouldn't even bother trying.
- ...

I'd love to be proven wrong, but that's what I've been experiencing after about 3 months' use.

PS: I am a Windows user. Never had any Apple product except for an old iPod Shuffle and this new iPad.
I'll give my opinion in red above.

For me the iPad is a game playing, web surfing convenience so I can overlook (or am blinded to) the issues you have mentioned on the whole.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:11 PM   #10
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Thankfully Chrome is now available.
Huh ?

It's not chrome. It's just the same iOS browser page renderer with Chrome functionality/skin built on top.

Makes no difference at all to how pages are displayed, rendered etc.

Also, this thing with Windows/OSX.

You are mostly a OSX user, like I am mostly a Windows user.

I end up using OSX regularly due to work but it still drives me mad.

That's only because I have grown accustomed to using Windows as my daily OS, nothing more.

What about OSX forcing you to type the password every-time you want to change some ****ing setting or install something.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:21 PM   #11
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It's a good OS, but I think we can all agree it isn't really commercially viable.
That really depends who is using it!. If someone just wants web browsing, network file sharing, and standard desktop productivity (i.e. doesn't mind using Libre Office instead of MS Office for example), then it's easily commercially viable, and not difficult at all to integrate into most business networks.

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What about OSX forcing you to type the password every-time you want to change some ****ing setting or install something.
Denying root privileges is actually a good thing, keep the user as separate as possible from being able to screw things up!. Even MS recognised this which is why we now have UAC.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:25 PM   #12
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Denying root privileges is actually a good thing, keep the user as separate as possible from being able to screw things up!. Even MS recognised this which is why we now have UAC.
I know it's a good thing, DM just doesn't seem to understand that.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:29 PM   #13
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It's not chrome. It's just the same iOS browser page renderer with Chrome functionality/skin built on top.
A Bugatti is just a Volkswagen Passat with a different engine, gearbox, drivetrain and body...it's still a different experience.

I was a windows user for 20 years, and I'm hardly passing comment on something that is a little known feature.

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That really depends who is using it!. If someone just wants web browsing, network file sharing, and standard desktop productivity (i.e. doesn't mind using Libre Office instead of MS Office for example), then it's easily commercially viable, and not difficult at all to integrate into most business networks.
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How many offices do you know like that? Or that would rule out the use of MS Office completely?

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I know it's a good thing, DM just doesn't seem to understand that.
Thank you for another of your ignorantly condescending replies. However, there are more than one ways to skin a cat. OSX being an excellent example. It doesn't need all those clicks to do exactly the same thing and is generally a more secure OS!
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:30 PM   #14
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Don't need to click at all to do quite a few things in Windows 7.

Winkey > fhigerg > enter
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:34 PM   #15
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Don't need to click at all to do quite a few things in Windows 7.

Winkey > fhigerg > enter
It is quite clear that nobody replying to this thread has any idea what usability is.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:41 PM   #16
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It is quite clear that nobody replying to this thread has any idea what usability is.
or maybe you are the one who is clueless.. Ever wonder why everyone usually disagrees with you?

sometimes the world is mad and disagrees with you when you are right... But when the world disagrees with you EVERY F&*$ING TIME... It might be a clue that you are the one with the problem.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:43 PM   #17
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Everyone understands you, don't be so angsty.

I forgot to point out you make this exact same thread every year.

Why is that?
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:43 PM   #18
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A Bugatti is just a Volkswagen Passat with a different engine, gearbox, drivetrain and body...it's still a different experience.

I was a windows user for 20 years, and I'm hardly passing comment on something that is a little known feature.

That a ridiculous comparison. I never mentioned that the experience isn't different. I said that since it uses the same rendering engine, it makes no difference at all to how the page is rendered or how fast it is rendered. Every single iOS Safari disadvantage to how the page is loaded and rendered etc is still there.

Or are you saying that a Passat handles as well and is just as fast as a Bugatti ?


Thank you for another of your ignorantly condescending replies. However, there are more than one ways to skin a cat. OSX being an excellent example. It doesn't need all those clicks to do exactly the same thing and is generally a more secure OS!
What you said about the clicks is not true and OSX is by far the least secure OS out there.

Since you are taking it as a priciple from the view of a casual user, then yes.

A casual user needs to have an extra buffer to prevent them from installing garbage on their pc, it's like that on Windows, and the same on OSX.

Is the one extra click going to break your mouse ? How many wasted seconds are you going to have in a day ? Do you install 100 new applications a day on your pc ?

I think the user will be burned far worse if malware gets in and ends up with far bigger problems and hassle.



All of that besides the fact that not all programs are the same and some of them require administrator privileges to install while others don't.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:49 PM   #19
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How many offices do you know like that? Or that would rule out the use of MS Office completely?
Quite a few!

http://www.ubuntu.com/business/case-studies

I agree than MS Office is often a deal breaker for most, but it's not impossible to work around without it provided you've got half decent IT staff & training. Failing that, there's always Wine/Crossover etc or to run an XP/Win7 VirtualBox VM if someone absolutely has to have it (though I'd steer away from that route personally, as you may as well just run Windows then!).



(Posted from my 24/7 office PC...)
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:51 PM   #20
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It's about the same frequency as the times I use windows.
Have you ever thought about keeping this all to yourself?
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