[VeniHemealm]

Or she could suck off the droid...

Meh, glad some of you enjoyed it. Wish i could of.

Well the droid was full of white creamy goodness

[WenPyclenoWex]

exactly... Can you explain what you really liked about this film des? I have just been speaking to a lot of people who have done the VFX work including the supervisors who were in direct contact with Ridley, and they all thought it was "weak" compared to his other stuff. Big disappointment was also used in the conversation. They were proud of the visuals they created though (and rightly so)...

[alex_loudermilk]

[MilenaMKB]

mmmmm......all fair points.... but Ridley's explanations for his films shortcomings are stupid.

I like how there is a film about Aliens, spaceships, interstellar exploration, androids, but you are unable to suspend belief about a woman getting a Caesarean and walking soon after (after shooting herself up a half dozen times with morphine and writhing in pain, mind you).

[RildFiemodo]

I like how there is a film about Aliens, spaceships, interstellar exploration, androids, but you are unable to suspend belief about woman getting a Caesarean and walking soon after (after shooting herself up a half dozen times with morphine and writhing in pain, mind you).

The thing is, its sci-fi, technology is far advanced and made up. Might seem unbelievable and illogical compared to what we know.

No point nitpicking every single detail such as these.

[Discus]

I like how there is a film about Aliens, spaceships, interstellar exploration, androids, but you are unable to suspend belief about a woman getting a Caesarean and walking soon after (after shooting herself up a half dozen times with morphine and writhing in pain, mind you).

Unless she shot herself with new stomach muscles, it doesn't matter. It is like trying to run with a broken leg. All the morphine in the world might stop the pain, but won't make the leg viable to run on.

[entaifsfets]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddis...-epic-failure/

Where Scott & Co. have innovated on these stolen ideas is by making their characters — who are all bizarrely unfazed by the philosophical weight of their mission and discoveries — do ridiculously dumb things. When they see black alien ooze, they touch it. When they find a giant severed alien head, they bring it on the ship and perform inexplicable experiments on it in an open environment with no protective clothing. When the answers Charlie seeks are not immediately offered by the alien temple — which would be an earth-shattering discovery in its own right — he foregoes further inquiry and gets drunk. When members of the science team are lost in a gigantic, danger-filled alien structure, the mission leaders all go have sex. When a giant wheel-shaped object is rolling toward a couple of characters, they don’t run right or left, but stay directly in its path, like the security guard and the steamroller inAustin Powers. There isn’t a moment in the film where the human characters do something that humans would actually do, and the laughter of the audience in the screening I saw confirmed this.

But, the humans aren’t the only dummies here. The aliens–who all resemble buffed, albino Woody Harrelsons–are just another version of the brutish, humanoid killing machines we see in garbage like this year’s Battleship. You would think that aliens who engineered human beings–and who have some unstated reason for wanting to wipe us out–would be smarter than the Xenomorphs from the Alien series. They aren‘t. Apart from having spaceships–and technology that conveniently shows pixilated holographic recordings of their fate to people who happen to drop in and push the right buttons–there is nothing advanced about them. They weren’t even smart enough to keep their deadly bio-weapons safely locked-up, choosing instead to keep them in jars on the floor. This is the equivalent of keeping buckets of poisonous snakes, viruses, and toxic waste in your family’s minivan. What advanced race would be that careless?

[poulaMahmah]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddis...-epic-failure/

While there are some valid points in the article, the writer loses a lot of credibility with this idiotic statement.

Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke wisely never revealed the alien intelligence that drives the path of mankind in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Their greater purpose remains a mystery. Audiences have been chewing on that mystery longer than Ridley Scott has been making films, longer than Damon Lindelof has been alive, and will continue to do so long after viewers have forgotten Prometheus. That statement tells me he has not fully read the series, because the alien purpose, along with what the monoliths purpose were, was all explained by the end of "3001 The Final Odyssey".

[paralelogram]

Unless she shot herself with new stomach muscles, it doesn't matter. It is like trying to run with a broken leg. All the morphine in the world might stop the pain, but won't make the leg viable to run on.

Maybe they were special futuristic staples. Belief temporarily suspended, enjoyment ensues.

[Obebtetibre]

I really, really wanted to love this film but the plot made it literally impossible for me to do so.

Took this from movieplotholes.com but it sums up my thoughts quite nicely:

Major Plot hole: God dammit. How can a 2012 movie still feature this old imbecile cliché of people running away from a falling building in length instead of sideways? Vickers ran in a straight line for a minute and Shaw only thought about doing something different after hitting her head on the ground. Her new concussion released her from the script’s cartoonish logic and made her realize she could survive by rolling 2 feet sideways.

Major Plot hole: God dammit. How can a 2012 movie still feature this old imbecile cliché of scared people trying to be cute to unknown terrifying species? In all the scenes of Fifield and Millburn inside the Alien spaceship, we see them scared of everything: especially the decapitated architect and super-especially when Janek mentions that a probe is picking-up life forms. But no worries! The life forms are just two giant alien-vagina-cobras straight out of your nightmares. This is why the pussy of this story, Millburn, goes against his survival instinct and fear of the unknown to try to pet the alien abominations. ‘’It’s okay baby. It’s okay’’ He says. Great use of a rapist pick-up line to break the ice with an alien species – no way this will backfire.

Major Plot hole: The alien octopus baby is responsible for many plot holes. Let’s go over each one of them:

1-Shaw takes out an alien octopus from her belly. She lets him/her/it/wtf inside the machine and does not try to kill it herself or ask the crew to bring a flamethrower in the surgery room if they have a craving for squid rings with an after-state of placenta.

2-In order for Shaw to access the surgery room and make her own custom caesarian, she had to hit 2 other crew-members on the head with a blunt metal object. Those two crew-members will 2 hours later join Shaw for another mission in the alien cavern and none of them will ever mention that Shaw used to have an alien baby in her stomach, that they were savagely attacked, or that they can’t walk straight anymore since their brains started to leak from their nostrils.

3-Putting aside the previously mentioned problem of Shaw not telling anyone about her hentai-potent child, it is shocking to see no one did anything about it either. It could be said that Weyland maybe wanted to keep it on-board but he is still a dumb-ass if he ordered the crew to keep the squid in the automated surgery machine instead of freezing it and putting in storage like it was intended for Shaw.

4-How did the squid baby get so huge? It was out of its mother’s belly for less than 10 hours in a room with no food and water but still added 1 ton of mass on itself – half of which being dedicated to a sweet new set of vaginas. Did it assimilate all the particles in the air? That should be enough...

Major Plot hole: The alien ship crashes and the engineer pilot has two options: either run for the next alien ship knowing he won’t be stopped this time by an over-joyed suicidal crew or start to hunt for the remaining female human character that presents no threat to him. He chooses the latter. But how did he find her so quickly? Shaw reached the crashed escape-pod in a minute and the Engineer was already right beside her. It would be fair to assume the alien ship has its own life detectors and was thus able to locate the running Shaw without any problems, but then, how come the Engineer did not detect the 1000-pound vagina-squid right beside her? This gives us two new options: either the Engineer could not have known where Shaw was or he was stupid to not know about the dangerous monster right beside her.

Major Plot hole: There is no way for Fifield and Millburn to get lost in the alien cave. They had an entire crew of people inside their spaceship monitoring everything: their dialogue, their positions – you name it. Are we to believe no one on the deck heard them say they wanted to go back on the ship? Are we to believe no one gave them directions to go back to the surface? Are we to believe the Prometheus crew simply assumed they were still with the others even if their scanners and probes would show they were not? Was there any shittier way to write the script to make sure those two guys were stranded inside the cave during the storm? (The answer is NO to all the questions).


Plot contrivance: The effect of the black goo is all over the place and unpredictable like a diva on PMS.

- An Engineer drinks it; it dissolves him in a river and creates life on a planet.

- Worms are covered in it: they become giant vagina-cobras with an oral fixation

- A geologist gets his face in it: becomes a gymnast zombie from Resident Evil

- A human drinks it: make him impregnate an infertile woman with a giant space squid

It must be great to be a screenwriter who can pull so many different things from his *******: it’s like your own personal backpack in-between your legs.


Plot contrivance: Peter Wayland makes no sense. Why tell your crew you are dead? Why plan to go on a mission yourself inside the alien cave that will show to your whole crew that you were alive this whole time? Why bother? Since everyone wasn’t briefed on the real purpose of the mission until they woke-up from their Cryosleep, why would anyone care if you were on-board? Senile much?


Unaddressed Issues: Pretty much everything that is not a plot hole is an unaddressed issue in this movie. Why did the Engineers show a star-map to their weapon facility instead of their home planet? Why were the Engineers running away from a threat to go inside the cargo room instead of another non-dead-end option? What happened to the other alien ships? Did the threat attack all the alien ships at the same time to make it impossible for one of them to escape? Why was there still one living Engineer inside the spaceship? Wouldn’t the threat kill him too? The alien spaceships have been underground for more than 2000 years; did no one back home want to see what happened? Why did Janek not care at all about the 2 scientists trapped inside the alien cave? What is the purpose of those random pixelated flashbacks of the Engineer crew running? Why was everyone so relaxed about finding out the biggest revelation of human history? And why, oh why was there a goddamn flute to activate the alien ship?

[Cibirrigmavog]

I like how there is a film about Aliens, spaceships, interstellar exploration, androids, but you are unable to suspend belief about a woman getting a Caesarean and walking soon after (after shooting herself up a half dozen times with morphine and writhing in pain, mind you).

All of the above apart from being able to run around with no stomach muscles are theoretically possible, thus making sci fi in my mind a great genre as our imaginations can run wild. When humans start doing stupid idiotic things that humans cant and wouldn't do then it sort of takes away the immersion in the film. As stated in EaG's post there are far to many stupid moments in the film, that try to create suspense or fear. Just all seemed a bit half arsed. Even the gory bits seemed to be chucked in there as an afterthought.

Good post EaG. 90% is valid points from the writer.

Cleeve...good post.

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Unaddressed Issues: Pretty much everything that is not a plot hole is an unaddressed issue in this movie. Why did the Engineers show a star-map to their weapon facility instead of their home planet?

Cant believe i forgot to mention that btw.... LOL...

[Evdokia]

heh, well....

The biggest idea missed by, I want to say nearly EVERYONE, is the actual timing of Prometheus, which leads to the answer as to WHY the engineers want us dead. Read on to explore!

MAJOR SPOILERS:Is Elizabeth Shaw the Virgin Mary?

“The ‘Caesarean’ scene is central to the film’s themes of creation, sacrifice, and giving life. Shaw has discovered she’s pregnant with something non-human and sets the autodoc to slice it out of her. She lies there screaming, a gaping wound in her stomach, while her tentacled alien child thrashes and squeals in the clamp above her and OH HEY IT’S THE LIFEGIVER WITH HER ABDOMEN TORN OPEN.And she doesn’t kill it. And she calls the procedure a ‘caesarean’ instead of an ‘abortion’.

Here’s where the Christian allegories really come through. The day of this strange birth just happens to be Christmas Day. And this is a ‘virgin birth’ of sorts, although a dark and twisted one, because Shaw couldn’t possibly be pregnant. And Shaw’s the crucifix-wearing Christian of the crew. We may well ask, echoing Yeats: what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards LV-223 to be born?


Consider the scene where David tells Shaw that she’s pregnant, and tell me that’s not a riff on the Annunciation. The calm, graciously angelic android delivering the news, the pious mother who insists she can’t possibly be pregnant, the wry declaration that it’s no ordinary child… yeah, we’ve seen this before.”


Cavalorn also answers the major question: Why do the Engineers want to kill us? This portion of the dissertation explores the idea that the Engineers sent Jesus (the alien) down to save us and we in turn killed him.

“From the Engineers’ perspective, so long as humans retained that notion of self-sacrifice as central, we weren’t entirely beyond redemption. But we went and screwed it all up, and the film hints at when, if not why: the Engineers at the base died two thousand years ago. That suggests that the event that turned them against us and led to the huge piles of dead Engineers lying about was one and the same event. We did something very, very bad, and somehow the consequences of that dreadful act accompanied the Engineers back to LV-223 and massacred them.


If you have uneasy suspicions about what ‘a bad thing approximately 2,000 years ago’ might be, then let me reassure you that you are right.

An astonishing excerpt from the Movies.com interview with Ridley Scott:

Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, “Let’s send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it.” Guess what? They crucified him.
Yeah. The reason the Engineers don’t like us any more is that they made us a Space Jesus, and we broke him.”

But this is all just the tip of the iceberg. If you click on over to Cavalorn you can read about the Engineers, the Engineers’ Gods, the Elders, and presumably what that black ooze is. To say Damon Lindelof is a bad writer is one thing, but to say he’s lacking ideas and originality is another. Prometheus, while shrouded in religious motifs, breaks new ground by implementing critical thinking into an other words generic sci-fi adventure.


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The Actual blog mentioned

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html

is fantastic read imo.

[baxodrom]

What the ****... Surely that **** is made up. So basically the film was for die hard christians lol.

[Olphander]

What the ****... Surely that **** is made up. So basically the film was for die hard christians lol.

er no not quite, the opposite actually.. Read the blog, it actually makes sense. Even down to the snake scene.

[skydaypat]

If you need to read a long ass blog to explain 70% of a film then the film was ****. About 2 % of people would of made any of those connections after watching it.

[parurorges]

You are just pi**ed they didn't explain why she didn't pack a lunch at the end. Admit it.

[dasneycomrov]

lol I am a little yes.... but come on i make a good point. Even you who loved the film somehow had to read a long blog to explain stuff that even you didn't clearly understand. Rubbish!

[triarmarm]

Not really, I regard a good film to be one that I don't just enjoy watching, but also thinking about afterwards or repeatedly watch. So many films released these days are pretty brain dead popcorn films it is nice to see a film that I wanted to read about more. The last film that did this for me was the Matrix.

So many films spend so long trying to explain the point of the film, or character building, the enjoyment of the film doesnt happen until 20mins at the end. Many Many Marvel films suffer from this.

How many times have people said that they enjoyed/disliked a film more or less after reading the book.

I wont deny that if the blog holds truth to the film, the writer didn't do a great job translating it to the big screen, but to me I still enjoyed the film how it was presented.