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**Acciblyfluila** · 05-06-2012, 02:55 PM

I have 10MB DSL at home. It's the fastest access you can get out here in BFE. Friend tethered his phone to my PC. I'm downloading at 5.5 MegaBYTES per second. ... ... Screw landlines.

**Sliliashdes** · 05-06-2012, 02:58 PM

Arent the bandwith caps horrible? my own plan is 1GB per month. On a phone thats not an issue. PC however you would reach that in a week easily.

**CsFLhGNp** · 05-06-2012, 03:00 PM

Yeah, 4G tethering is great if:

a) You can plug your phone into the wall
b) You have a stable signal
c) You have unlimited data
d) Your carrier doesn't charge you for the privilege to tether
e) You have 4G LTE

Which basically means you don't have T-mobile. /rant

My friend with Verizon does this for us when we need to DL a Steam game for a LAN, it's 10x faster than the land line connection.

**crycleascentyv** · 05-07-2012, 09:21 AM

Yeah, 4G tethering is great if:

a) You can plug your phone into the wall
b) You have a stable signal
c) You have unlimited data
d) Your carrier doesn't charge you for the privilege to tether
e) You have 4G LTE

Which basically means you don't have T-mobile. /rant

My friend with Verizon does this for us when we need to DL a Steam game for a LAN, it's 10x faster than the land line connection.

That's basically what we were doing lol. If verizon offered unlimited mobile broadband plans I'd consider dropping my current ISP. My friend is on an unlimited plan and verizon doesn't seem to have an issue with his 40gb a month usage.

**BoboStin** · 05-07-2012, 12:29 PM

A few weeks ago I was having some issues with Comcast, they overcharged me for some things, and I refused to pay the bill. They disconnected my internet, and I tethered to HSPA+ phone on AT&T for a few days, it wasn't too bad. I have a 5GB cap, and I used 3GB in a few days. The Comcast issue was resolved btw, they were wrong.

**Bletlemof** · 05-07-2012, 08:54 PM

4g can do (in best connection) 100mb/50mb

**Adollobdeb** · 05-07-2012, 10:54 PM

Damn,

You guys are making me dislike my 4g service. I have Epic 4G from sprint which uses the Clear network and at my office, I only get 5Mb/s (home is 1.5-2Mb/s).

After seeing what you guys are getting. I think my next phone is going to be a 4g LTE phone.

**Irravepem** · 05-07-2012, 10:56 PM

Damn,

You guys are making me dislike my 4g service. I have Epic 4G from sprint which uses the Clear network and at my office, I only get 5Mb/s (home is 1.5-2Mb/s).

After see what you guys are getting. I think my next phone is going to be a 4g LTE phone.

I know what you mean, that's about what I get if I'm lucky. The fastest I've ever seen on T-mobile's HSPA+ network is 15/5, and that was in the drive-thru of an El Pollo Loco.

**kilibry** · 05-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Damn,

You guys are making me dislike my 4g service. I have Epic 4G from sprint which uses the Clear network and at my office, I only get 5Mb/s (home is 1.5-2Mb/s).

After see what you guys are getting. I think my next phone is going to be a 4g LTE phone.

I have the HTC Evo 4G. I've only ever used 4G once when I was at a layover in Atlanta, GA. I was pulling 3mbits max.

Not only is Verizon's service ludicrously fast, but they're the only ones in my area to even offer 3g. Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. are ALL stuck at 1x speed around here.

I hate their pricing, but I can't deny that they have by far the best network.

**Switiespils** · 05-08-2012, 04:52 AM

It's not just the caps, it's the latency. Sure, streaming and browsing might be fine, but you'll struggle if you're playing CoD or Halo 4...

**Fsfkkkjz** · 05-08-2012, 04:56 AM

It's not just the caps, it's the latency. Sure, streaming and browsing might be fine, but you'll struggle if you're playing CoD or Halo 4...

Is the latency high because the upstream is variable? I figured if you are getting a pretty decent upsteam a low ping would follow suit.

**bataovady** · 05-08-2012, 05:05 AM

Is the latency high because the upstream is variable? I figured if you are getting a pretty decent upsteam a low ping would follow suit.

Think about the hops.

PC, to wifi to cell to cell tower to backbone. You're going to get variability in that continuously - from what I can tell, pings on 4g are usually 30 - 70 msecs... my wifi is usually 22 - 30 msecs and when on wired, I can get 15 - 20 msecs.

Maybe some people can test and report back.

**namaikaimvputka** · 05-08-2012, 05:10 AM

Think about the hops.

PC, to wifi to cell to cell tower to backbone. You're going to get variability in that continuously - from what I can tell, pings on 4g are usually 30 - 70 msecs... my wifi is usually 22 - 30 msecs and when on wired, I can get 15 - 20 msecs.

Maybe some people can test and report back.

Sitting on the beach with 70 ping playing a PC game doesn't sound too bad to me.

**vTLWqa1l** · 05-08-2012, 05:13 AM

Sitting on the beach with 70 ping playing a PC game doesn't sound too bad to me.

Max brightness to counter the glare... meh.

I did read that the new iPad can supply 25 hours of 4g connectivity when used as a wifi hotspot (screen off). How bonkers is that...

**Stainditnew** · 05-08-2012, 05:14 AM

Max brightness to counter the glare... meh.

I did read that the new iPad can supply 25 hours of 4g connectivity when used as a wifi hotspot (screen off). How bonkers is that...

Pretty bonkers. I wish more hardware developers would take Apple's approach of putting ginormous batteries in their devices. I love my Galaxy Nexus, but my lord the battery life is horrendous.

**KneefeZes** · 05-08-2012, 06:51 AM

Pretty bonkers. I wish more hardware developers would take Apple's approach of putting ginormous batteries in their devices. I love my Galaxy Nexus, but my lord the battery life is horrendous.

Samsung do make an extended battery here: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I5...6431017&sr=8-1

**Kokomoxcv** · 05-08-2012, 07:58 AM

Samsung do make an extended battery here: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I5...6431017&sr=8-1

I've had it since day one. The battery life still sucks.

**nursopoutaras** · 05-08-2012, 07:59 AM

I've had it since day one. The battery life still sucks.

Hmmm, I don't think mine is that bad and I am using the stock battery. Are you using a stock rom or?

**vioppyskype** · 05-08-2012, 08:47 AM

Hmmm, I don't think mine is that bad and I am using the stock battery. Are you using a stock rom or?

I used the stock rom for a while. I rooted and went to Codename Android with Lean Kernel, but am now using AOKP Toro.

**Npbfamgt** · 05-08-2012, 08:50 AM

I used the stock rom for a while. I rooted and went to Codename Android with Lean Kernel, but am now using AOKP Toro.

I use this and I've never had a problem with battery life. Although I doubt it is much/if any better than what you are using.

05-06-2012, 02:55 PM	#1
Acciblyfluila Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	4G...WTF? I have 10MB DSL at home. It's the fastest access you can get out here in BFE. Friend tethered his phone to my PC. I'm downloading at 5.5 MegaBYTES per second. ... ... Screw landlines. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-06-2012, 02:58 PM	#2
Sliliashdes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 375 Senior Member	Arent the bandwith caps horrible? my own plan is 1GB per month. On a phone thats not an issue. PC however you would reach that in a week easily. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-06-2012, 03:00 PM	#3
CsFLhGNp Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	Yeah, 4G tethering is great if: a) You can plug your phone into the wall b) You have a stable signal c) You have unlimited data d) Your carrier doesn't charge you for the privilege to tether e) You have 4G LTE Which basically means you don't have T-mobile. /rant My friend with Verizon does this for us when we need to DL a Steam game for a LAN, it's 10x faster than the land line connection. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-07-2012, 09:21 AM	#4
crycleascentyv Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 577 Senior Member	Yeah, 4G tethering is great if: a) You can plug your phone into the wall b) You have a stable signal c) You have unlimited data d) Your carrier doesn't charge you for the privilege to tether e) You have 4G LTE Which basically means you don't have T-mobile. /rant My friend with Verizon does this for us when we need to DL a Steam game for a LAN, it's 10x faster than the land line connection. That's basically what we were doing lol. If verizon offered unlimited mobile broadband plans I'd consider dropping my current ISP. My friend is on an unlimited plan and verizon doesn't seem to have an issue with his 40gb a month usage. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-07-2012, 12:29 PM	#5
BoboStin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 376 Senior Member	A few weeks ago I was having some issues with Comcast, they overcharged me for some things, and I refused to pay the bill. They disconnected my internet, and I tethered to HSPA+ phone on AT&T for a few days, it wasn't too bad. I have a 5GB cap, and I used 3GB in a few days. The Comcast issue was resolved btw, they were wrong. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-07-2012, 08:54 PM	#6
Bletlemof Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	4g can do (in best connection) 100mb/50mb Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-07-2012, 10:54 PM	#7
Adollobdeb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	Damn, You guys are making me dislike my 4g service. I have Epic 4G from sprint which uses the Clear network and at my office, I only get 5Mb/s (home is 1.5-2Mb/s). After seeing what you guys are getting. I think my next phone is going to be a 4g LTE phone. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-07-2012, 10:56 PM	#8
Irravepem Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Damn, You guys are making me dislike my 4g service. I have Epic 4G from sprint which uses the Clear network and at my office, I only get 5Mb/s (home is 1.5-2Mb/s). After see what you guys are getting. I think my next phone is going to be a 4g LTE phone. I know what you mean, that's about what I get if I'm lucky. The fastest I've ever seen on T-mobile's HSPA+ network is 15/5, and that was in the drive-thru of an El Pollo Loco. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-07-2012, 11:31 PM	#9
kilibry Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	Damn, You guys are making me dislike my 4g service. I have Epic 4G from sprint which uses the Clear network and at my office, I only get 5Mb/s (home is 1.5-2Mb/s). After see what you guys are getting. I think my next phone is going to be a 4g LTE phone. I have the HTC Evo 4G. I've only ever used 4G once when I was at a layover in Atlanta, GA. I was pulling 3mbits max. Not only is Verizon's service ludicrously fast, but they're the only ones in my area to even offer 3g. Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. are ALL stuck at 1x speed around here. I hate their pricing, but I can't deny that they have by far the best network. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 04:52 AM	#10
Switiespils Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 619 Senior Member	It's not just the caps, it's the latency. Sure, streaming and browsing might be fine, but you'll struggle if you're playing CoD or Halo 4... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 04:56 AM	#11
Fsfkkkjz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	It's not just the caps, it's the latency. Sure, streaming and browsing might be fine, but you'll struggle if you're playing CoD or Halo 4... Is the latency high because the upstream is variable? I figured if you are getting a pretty decent upsteam a low ping would follow suit. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 05:05 AM	#12
bataovady Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 423 Senior Member	Is the latency high because the upstream is variable? I figured if you are getting a pretty decent upsteam a low ping would follow suit. Think about the hops. PC, to wifi to cell to cell tower to backbone. You're going to get variability in that continuously - from what I can tell, pings on 4g are usually 30 - 70 msecs... my wifi is usually 22 - 30 msecs and when on wired, I can get 15 - 20 msecs. Maybe some people can test and report back. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 05:10 AM	#13
namaikaimvputka Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 359 Senior Member	Think about the hops. PC, to wifi to cell to cell tower to backbone. You're going to get variability in that continuously - from what I can tell, pings on 4g are usually 30 - 70 msecs... my wifi is usually 22 - 30 msecs and when on wired, I can get 15 - 20 msecs. Maybe some people can test and report back. Sitting on the beach with 70 ping playing a PC game doesn't sound too bad to me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 05:13 AM	#14
vTLWqa1l Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Sitting on the beach with 70 ping playing a PC game doesn't sound too bad to me. Max brightness to counter the glare... meh. I did read that the new iPad can supply 25 hours of 4g connectivity when used as a wifi hotspot (screen off). How bonkers is that... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 05:14 AM	#15
Stainditnew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Max brightness to counter the glare... meh. I did read that the new iPad can supply 25 hours of 4g connectivity when used as a wifi hotspot (screen off). How bonkers is that... Pretty bonkers. I wish more hardware developers would take Apple's approach of putting ginormous batteries in their devices. I love my Galaxy Nexus, but my lord the battery life is horrendous. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 06:51 AM	#16
KneefeZes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Pretty bonkers. I wish more hardware developers would take Apple's approach of putting ginormous batteries in their devices. I love my Galaxy Nexus, but my lord the battery life is horrendous. Samsung do make an extended battery here: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I5...6431017&sr=8-1 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 07:58 AM	#17
Kokomoxcv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 380 Senior Member	Samsung do make an extended battery here: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I5...6431017&sr=8-1 I've had it since day one. The battery life still sucks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 07:59 AM	#18
nursopoutaras Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 578 Senior Member	I've had it since day one. The battery life still sucks. Hmmm, I don't think mine is that bad and I am using the stock battery. Are you using a stock rom or? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 08:47 AM	#19
vioppyskype Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Hmmm, I don't think mine is that bad and I am using the stock battery. Are you using a stock rom or? I used the stock rom for a while. I rooted and went to Codename Android with Lean Kernel, but am now using AOKP Toro. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-08-2012, 08:50 AM	#20
Npbfamgt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	I used the stock rom for a while. I rooted and went to Codename Android with Lean Kernel, but am now using AOKP Toro. I use this and I've never had a problem with battery life. Although I doubt it is much/if any better than what you are using. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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