[LSg44PDu]

i want a non phone version like the ipod touch is to the iphone.i hate talking on the phone but love pmps

Samsung already has that, but I forget the name. Basically Android (Galaxy Ace/S-ish) without a modem.

[johnbeller]

LCD also does not have anywhere near the response time of an OLED.

You can tell the difference in response time just browsing through the app drawer between oled and LCD.

Also the black levels on OLED are just amazing, I like not being able to see the difference between black on the screen and the black on the bezel of my phone.

I changed from the Galaxy S2 to the Galaxy Nexus myself and that was not supposed to be a large upgrade in screen tech AFAIK, but the screen seems a LOT better to me. It must be the increased PPI?

And yes, OLED uses much less power than LCD. Also the new arrangement (less amount of red) will supposedly make it use less power.

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Ok now the GPU and CPU in the S3 use much less power according to here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Exyno...axy-S3_id29615

Around 46% less for 3D and 36% less on CPU usage compared to last generation (not sure on tegra 3's power saving or the S4's, but it seems good enough)

Not only that, it has a larger battery than most phones:

Galaxy S3: 2100mah
iPhone 4s: 1420mah
One X: 1800mah
Lumia 900: 1840mah

Also the S3's battery is removable, the others are not.

So it all things considered it looks to have awesome battery life.

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Ok not only does it use less power than previous 45nm phones but...

Samsung already has that, but I forget the name. Basically Android (Galaxy Ace/S-ish) without a modem.

The Galaxy Player. Archos do some android PMP's too, as do a few others.

[alskdjreyfd]

Engadget has a few benches of the S3 vs other Android phones. It seems to have some advantages and some disadvantages. Be interesting to see Anandtech get their hands on the phone for a more detailed test.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/gsiii-benchmarks/

Samsung Galaxy S III HTC One X (AT&T) HTC One X (global) HTC One S (global) Samsung Galaxy Note (global) Quadrant (v2) 5,189 5183 4,906 5,053 3,854 Linpack single-thread (MFLOPS) 51.337 103.77 48.54 103.88 64.3 Linpack multi-thread (MFLOPS) 101.606 214.53 150.54 222.22 95.66 NenaMark2 (fps) 58.8 58.7 47.6 61.0 32.8 NenaMark1 (fps) 59.8 58.6 59.5 60.8 56.6 Vellamo 2094 2350 1,617 2,452 901 SunSpider 9.1 (ms, lower numbers are better) 1709 1,772.5 1,742.5 2,902

[P9CCd35R]

cool ill look into it i love my ipod touch just wish it had better sound quailty

[JohnMaltczevitch]

I say now, if this comes with Wolfson instead of Yamashit it's BY FAAAAAAAAAAR going to be the ultimate media device if the camera is also the shiz. I really do commend Samsung on this one, because the software in previous phones has not lived up to expectations; the S3 launch was much more about the software and its capabilities rather than the hardware, hardware, and some software mixed in. Heard rumours Samsung might lock bootloaders. Anyone with 100% knowledge this is not the case?

[BgpOoGI2]

cool ill look into it i love my ipod touch just wish it had better sound quailty

For sound quality you need to take a look (or listen!) at the Cowon Z2

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I say now, if this comes with Wolfson instead of Yamashit it's BY FAAAAAAAAAAR going to be the ultimate media device if the camera is also the shiz. I really do commend Samsung on this one, because the software in previous phones has not lived up to expectations; the S3 launch was much more about the software and its capabilities rather than the hardware, hardware, and some software mixed in. Heard rumours Samsung might lock bootloaders. Anyone with 100% knowledge this is not the case?

The Exynos 4412 has a new dedicated image signal processor, considering the S2 was pretty damn good I am expecting something special

[mireOpekrhype]

Apparently the U.S. version will not have the Quad Core Exynos because it doesn't support LTE. Bummer.

The site reports that the international version of the S3 will have a quad-core Exynos 4 CPU, and will have the S4 CPU for the U.S. version because the Exynos does not support LTE connectivity.
The S4 supports the network that will let Verizon users enjoy a 48Mpbs data connection. http://global.christianpost.com/news...verizon-74276/

[toyboy]

Apparently the U.S. version will not have the Quad Core Exynos because it doesn't support LTE. Bummer.



http://global.christianpost.com/news...verizon-74276/

The S4 is pretty much one of the best CPU's... beats tegra 3 in most things anyway

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/q...vidias-tegra-3

[kaysions]

Yeah, why have 4 slower cores when you can just have 2 wicked fast cores. Multithreading the quads can keep up, but still lag behind a wee bit. But single threaded stuff they just get killed on. Cortex-A15 is going to give phones a huge boost in performance. Even single core A15s will be awesome and competitive with A9's. Would be nice to see some 600MHz~1GHz A15 chips on 28/32nm with some fantastic battery life. Hopefully someone will make one! An A15 in that range could keep up with a dual A9 Im sure.
Thankfully the S4 was able to take the Adreno 220 clock from 266MHz and overclock into the 225 at 400MHz. Keeps the aging GPU competitive.


What will be awesome though is the end of the year. As everyone comes out with their dual core A15 ARMs, we should end up seeing a Quad-Core S4 and the Adreno 300 series.

[Itrtuawh]

It's certainly not the blow out that people were hoping for but I think it looks good.

The PenTile display is a bit of a bummer and so is the camera, but I'm glad that Samsung kept the user-replaceable battery and I'm really glad that they kept the MicroSD card. Performance looks solid and I have no objections to regional variants using A15 dual cores vs. A9 quads. The A15 is a monster and LTE is pretty much a necessity for a "next" phone these days, IMO, so it's no compromise. If anything, a quad core without LTE is the compromise.

While some folks have complained, I like the appearance of the device. Obviously there's only so much you can do with regards to the appearance if you want a user-replaceable battery. I think Samsung made some good choices from the consumer's perspective here. I think it might have been nice to keep the textured back, though.

In particular, I'm very impressed by the screen-to-bezel ratio. It comes in stark, beautiful contrast to a device like the Lumia 900, whose corners make it look like it must have been designed in Bezel City.

The physical button is a bit of a head-scratcher, IMO. I don't like it on my SII. In general, though, I still like buttons on the device and if keeping them gives you more space on the screen that would otherwise be used by soft buttons, I'm all for it.

Moreso than anything, I think that the approach Samsung is taking here with regards to software is interesting. HTC went completely the other way by thinning Sense down and delivering a stunningly beautiful design (with a big mistake on the absent MicroSD slot). Samsung is beefing up its Android differentiation and sticking to simple, functional and powerful hardware.

I really like the idea of a window overlay and, assuming it works, I'd love to see more of that for other applications. One thing I often miss on my mobile devices is really real multitasking. Literally seeing and interacting with two different things at once. The instant call when you bring the phone to your ear while looking at a contact is really clever. I also like the eye-tracking business. Solves a common problem when reading content on your device. Additionally, 50GB on Dropbox? Yes please!

One thing I would have liked to see in TouchWiz is higher icon density on the homescreens and app drawer, though.

I think the whole content hub idea is stupid. Waste of time and money on Samsung's part. Don't fight Google on this - it's crazy. Embrace it instead.

[ViaxobbimeVar]

It's certainly not the blow out that people were hoping for but I think it looks good.

The PenTile display is a bit of a bummer and so is the camera, but I'm glad that Samsung kept the user-replaceable battery and I'm really glad that they kept the MicroSD card. Performance looks solid and I have no objections to regional variants using A15 dual cores vs. A9 quads. The A15 is a monster and LTE is pretty much a necessity for a "next" phone these days, IMO, so it's no compromise. If anything, a quad core without LTE is the compromise.

I agree with everything you said except that you have one mistake; it will have a dual core Krait not an A-15 based SoC.

That shouldn't be a concern either, since Krait S4 benches show that it's very close to the quadcore chips in performance and has an even faster gpu. Also, I would be hard pressed to believe that a user would notice a tangible difference between the the two chips.

As for LTE, I think it's hardly a compromise to go without since later iterations of HSPA are providing speeds which are quite comparable to LTE along with better battery time. I'm not for a second saying that HSPA is as fast as LTE but how is the user supposed to notice the difference between 15mbits and 25mbits on a phone ?

The pentile decision confuses me but it was probably due to price or availibility of Amoled Plus screens at that size. In reality the use of pentile does not make a difference from Samsung's perspective, consifering that 90% of users are not the anal ***** that we are and won't affect their purchase.

Also, pentile as a criticism is quite a null point since the cons of these types of screens are not apparent at a PPI of greater than 250. I have recently seen the Galaxy Nexus next to a One X and beyond the fact that they use different panel technology there is nothing that makes the Nexus pentile screen look any worse.


Oh yeah, posting 200x magnification photos and macro shots 1 inch away from the screen is ridiculous and definitely not a realistic way to try to to show the difference between pentile and non-pentile screens.

Ps. only first sentence is a direct response to Inept, the rest is my general commentary.

[Metalhead]

Also, pentile as a criticism is quite a null point since the cons of these types of screens are not apparent at a PPI of greater than 250. I have recently seen the Galaxy Nexus next to a One X and beyond the fact that they use different panel technology there is nothing that makes the Nexus pentile screen look any worse.

I am glad you said that. The pentile screen on the galaxy nexus is a lot better than the screen on the Galaxy S2. It seems that all the people that are unhappy with this having pentile are S2 owners.

[BokerokyBan]

I am glad you said that. The pentile screen on the galaxy nexus is a lot better than the screen on the Galaxy S2. It seems that all the people that are unhappy with this having pentile are S2 owners.

The review sites really blew it out of proportion really. The problem now is that PenTile is tainted. Whether reviews will further exploit that or not we'll have to wait and see.

[sbgctsa]

I am glad you said that. The pentile screen on the galaxy nexus is a lot better than the screen on the Galaxy S2. It seems that all the people that are unhappy with this having pentile are S2 owners.

The S2 might have that Plus in front of the name but other than that the Nexus PenTile screen blows it completely out of the water. S2 owners who are unhappy about that just need to wake up and realise there is really no difference.

Also in the case of the S2 with it's 800*400 res, an AMOLED Plus screen was essential since that low resolution would have highlighted PenTile's problems.

The review sites really blew it out of proportion really. The problem now is that PenTile is tainted. Whether reviews will further exploit that or not we'll have to wait and see.

Yeah, they had a big part in it although there are some differences.

A lot of them were just using it as fodder to pad their reviews since previous PenTile screens with low resolutions clearly had a lower IQ.

Anandtech, being the proper scientific website that they are posted hugely magnified screenshots comparing different screens together, they just did it because it's what they do, they provide detailed analysis and clearly explain the differences between one technology and another.

Then suddenly every idiot with a tech blog rushed out to buy a USB microscope and proceeded to post comparison photos at 250x magnification, as if it's a clear way to show the supposed cons of PenTile.

I was very cynical of the technology last October with the Nexus release but after researching and then actually comparing the different phones together I realised that it really does not make any difference at all when we are dealing with high resolution screens and densities 300 ppi and more.

[pouslytut]

Interestingly LG have announced a new phone with 2gb of ram.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/l...b-ram-true-hd/

Are we even reaching the limit doing anything with 1gb?

[gopsbousperie]

Possibly. Handier and more snappier when running many tasks as fewer will get suspended. Also, apart from games, what eats up enough RAM when running 1GB? Dead Space uses 95MB. Dolphin uses 43MB with 1 tab on BBC News (desktop); 78MB when also having Facebook in a second tab (desktop version as well). GTA3 uses 66MB. Even with the above 4 running, I'm using 712MB/837MB in Task Manager. OK, if you factor in the higher resolution, thus more RAM usage there's no way you'd feasibly use 1.5GB even with overlays, surely?

[bpejjssoe]

I agree with everything you said except that you have one mistake; it will have a dual core Krait not an A-15 based SoC.

That shouldn't be a concern either, since Krait S4 benches show that it's very close to the quadcore chips in performance and has an even faster gpu. Also, I would be hard pressed to believe that a user would notice a tangible difference between the the two chips.

I thought that Krait used A15 core IP.

Note also that Samsung's Exynos lineup has an A15-based SoC (5250) that would be comparable. There's no information yet as to what Samsung will put in the regional variants in terms of brand, but it's pretty certain that the core IP on the dual-core LTE regional variants will be A15-based.

EDIT: Just looked it up and it turns out that Qualcomm is an ARM instruction set licensee and it creates its own architecture. Never knew. My bad.

[GenryDont]

Nice results, also glad they finally got around to re-testing the Galaxy S II, they never usually do it justice, not until it doesnt matter anyway.

[jhfsdhf]

Wow, the SGSIII looks to be a beast!

[jokiruss]

But it's verging on being too big

I really want to get it though