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"Because of its cryogenic nature, liquid oxygen can cause the materials it touches to become extremely brittle. Liquid oxygen is also a very powerful oxidizing agent: organic materials will burn rapidly and energetically in liquid oxygen. Further, if soaked in liquid oxygen, some materials such as coal briquettes, carbon black, etc., can detonate unpredictably from sources of ignition such as flames, sparks or impact from light blows. Petrochemicals often exhibit this behavior, including asphalt."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_oxygen You tell me.... LN2 is the way to go. |
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Smart, if disappointing decision
![]() http://www.iigas.com/liquid_oxygenMSDS.htm Some clips to illustrate the potential hazards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sab2Ltm1WcM - remember, aluminium burns fiercly in pure oxygen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsnDK...eature=related |
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I'm surprised at you Will.
You simply CANNOT 'burn' oxygen in air - you need a fuel - as the oxidant it is used but isn't of itself flammable by definition. That's why I said quite the opposite to being flammable in that it isn't the fuel. The problem is that pure oxygen will allos some materials to spontaneously ignite and others which may not normally be flammable to burn fiercely. Oxy-acetylene welding plant can be a lot of dangerous fun for bored apprentices ![]() |
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Would it be safer than petrol to have in the kitchen, with the cooker on, and transfer into different containers? [chin]
I ask because I don't want to suffer the same fate as this woman: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/894722-f...rol-in-kitchen [wallbash][stop] |
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Poor, stupid woman - I've some burn scarring and it wasn't a nice experience, she has my sympathy.
Petrol can be nasty stuff - people forget it's the fumes, not the liquid, that burns and those fumes can travel a LONG way and be quite easily ignited. Regarding liquid oxygen, it depends, while the oxygen that gassifies won't can't burn, if it came into contact with a pilot light or gas heating the oven, then it may cause it to burn a little more fiercely - or even cause it to go so lean it extinguishes, I suppose, like with an oxy-acytelene flame when too much oxygen is introduced to it - never tried it with a pilot light, or know of it being tried. If there is an oily rag, spilled chemicals, or such materials that the oxygen comes into contact with, they may self ignite in the oxygen rich atmosphere. Probably the most well known disaster due to an oxygen rich environment is the Apollo 1 (AKA some other program I can't recall ATM) test fire that killed three astonauts. At the time they had a pure oxygen environment in the capsule - in space, the NASA vehicles used a low pressure, pure oxygen atmosphere in their crafts to reduce the pressure differential to space vacuum and maintain the partial oxygen ratio found on Earth. It's believed that an electrical short caused a strip of velcro (which is relatively non-flammable in normal atmosphere) to burn fiercely, this ignited most of the other materials in the capsule which also burned fiercely, burning the poor sods alive - some other design errors also contributed and sparked a major delay and redesign of the whole thing. |
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The problem is that pure oxygen will allos some materials to spontaneously ignite and others which may not normally be flammable to burn fiercely. In the world of scuba diving, regulators that contain titanium are only rated for 40% O2 content for this very reason. Titanium has been known to react with high oxygen gasses. |
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