[FrassyLap]

What a despicable man.

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No surprise that Hera has run away from his ridiculous statements in the other thread. Hera, you needn't feel threatened by stupid people getting advantages. You're one of them.

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No surprise that Hera has run away from his ridiculous statements in the other thread. Hera, you needn't feel threatened by stupid people getting advantages. You're one of them.

Well that's a creative interpretation.

DaShi I never claimed that I was unusually intelligent. Usually when I discuss issues like this I am not seeking or advocating for policies that would bring me personal gain. The goal is to have a society that functions well and to do the most good for the most people.

Pushing average and below average people into student debt for worthless degrees is not optimal. Forcing people to prolong their education for years as postgrads so that they get a shot at sending the same kind of signals to employers that where once (in the age of more exclusive education) sent by having a college diploma is not optimal. Wasting so much of our resources trying to do the impossible with ideas that "anyone can do anything!" is not optimal.

Everyone could be better off if we did a major reform of higher education along the lines for example Murray proposes.

[Mymnnarry]

To be fair, you should probably ask what percentage of Americans under 35 or so have college degrees. OTOH, a falsified bachelor's degree in hospitality doesn't sound much more useless than a real one.

[Kamendoriks]

With respect to the 1944 GI Bill which provided college education to vast numbers of veterans:

The other locus of opposition was more surprising: academia. With federal subsidies for education available to millions, the number of people going to college was bound to increase sharply. Many professors and college administrators were appalled. "Education is not a device for coping with mass unemployment," said Robert Maynard Hutchins, president of the University of Chicago. "Colleges and universities will find themselves converted into educational hobo jungles." Hera, sounds like you're 70 years out of date and wrong.

[CicyHannyCeli]

These are the points Murray brings up, I tough it was obvious that this where the for points Murray brings up in the book I linked too.

I'm not worried about the gifted not receiving an education. I'm worried about the inflation of higher education and the waste this creates in both number of years of study and money.

Why are you worried about this? Some getting a little debt and wasting a few years isn't the end of the world. If it doesn't pay off in terms of increased productivity, then they're paying for a luxury.

I'd be more concerned about frauds who get degrees they don't deserve by cheating.

[Pashtet]

I just don't see how 'below average' people are graduating college in droves. Make all the jokes you want about certain schools and certain majors and college being easy but seriously, how many below average intelligence people are walking around with degrees?

Honestly, if someone was truly dumb, I don't see them passing their courses.

Maybe he's referring to affirmative action. He does seem to regard black people as "below average", after all...

[invest7manager]

I just realized that list included both ethics AND theology. No matter what you base your moral standards on, you can always be a hypocrite in academia