[Ygxejxox]

Agreed. I think "fast" greens for me are probably average at best as most greens in the area are very slow. So when one is average it seems "fast".

I agree with this. A lot of courses down this way have medium to slow speeds on their greens, mainly as they are designed to cater to the older population.

For example, I will play a round on Sunday at a course with slow greens, and then go play on Wednesday at my course for League and all of a sudden I think their "average" speed is like putting on concrete.

[gDGwm8BC]

I think most people are blissfully ignorant of what "fast" really means. They hear a certain tournament course is running at an 11 or a Major is set up at a 13 and automatically assume they fastest green in their area are nearly as fast. On the interwebs ten's get thrown around like 300 yard drives. Considering the USGA uses a 8.5 as a guideline for fast, I think most people would have a very rude awakening if they ever played anything rivaling tour speed.

[VoriEremiagem]

My course has the stimp rating posted next to the pin placement outside the club house. I don't know how often they updated it but it usually reads somewhere between 11-12. My guess is it's pretty accurate. They are definitely the fastest greens in the area.

JB, why don't you guys get/build a stimp device and measure the speeds on the tour van trip around the country. From my understanding it's just a ramp and tape measure. It would be fun to see how they compare across the country.

[imictiorume]

All of the above. Some people probably have no clue how fast PGA tour greens can be. Golf course could also be providing false stimpmeter speeds because they are not using the device properly. I have played numerous rounds on the monday/tuesday morning after the PGA event, so I feel like I have a general sense of how fast some of those greens can be. In many cases, they are blazingly fast... uncofomortably so. There are several courses in my area that post the speed reading for the day. Sometimes I feel that the speeds are slower than "advertised".

[v74ClzKY]

My course has the stimp rating posted next to the pin placement outside the club house. I don't know how often they updated it but it usually reads somewhere between 11-12. My guess is it's pretty accurate. They are definitely the fastest greens in the area.

JB, why don't you guys get/build a stimp device and measure the speeds on the tour van trip around the country. From my understanding it's just a ramp and tape measure. It would be fun to see how they compare across the country.

I have actually toyed with the idea of building a stimp. I even looked up instructions on how to do so. You have just sparked my desire to do this again.

[LeslieMoran]

Nice idea Shank, I think JB has probably entertained that idea and I hope he follows that thought. It would be nice to see a THP stimpmeter.

[SaLifHoq]

I would say it's a lack of knowledge that leads to a incorrect perception.

I always here people talking at our local course about oh the greens are fast this morning or oh the greens are pretty slow today, in reality they are about the same as they were the last time, our course doesn't change too much, but if it's been really dry for a while and they don't keep them as wet then they do get a little faster and if they over water and we get some rain it ends up being a little slower than normal, but all in all they don't vary too much. And I wouldn't consider our greens to be fast. I would say if I had to guess probably around a 6-7 on the stimp.

[bitymnmictada]

My course has the stimp rating posted next to the pin placement outside the club house. I don't know how often they updated it but it usually reads somewhere between 11-12. My guess is it's pretty accurate. They are definitely the fastest greens in the area.

JB, why don't you guys get/build a stimp device and measure the speeds on the tour van trip around the country. From my understanding it's just a ramp and tape measure. It would be fun to see how they compare across the country.

The honest to God's truth is because its not a job I want or really need to do. Its more for me about people sharing information then me measuring a golf course. Maybe I am just lazy.

[viagraman]

Great topic, one I've wondered about often with hearing speeds on here. The fastest greens I've ever played were at Murder Rock in Branson, John Daly course. They claimed 11 the day I played and said they try to keep their greens just under that. They were crazy to putt on and seemed twice as fast as any course around home. Our perception of fast is relative to what we are used to.

[ffdfriendforurr]

I have actually toyed with the idea of building a stimp. I even looked up instructions on how to do so. You have just sparked my desire to do this again.

I've also looked into this in the past. Time to do some research again. I don't think there hard to make. If build one I be happy to send one to THP too.