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Old 08-23-2010, 03:29 PM   #1
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The Guy that saw Juli Inkster warming up with a 'doughnut' on her club after a 30 minute delay. Dude see's this on TV and contacts the PGA and Julie ends up getting DQ'd

And before you 'Rules are Rules' people start chiming in, I offer you this:
The reason for the delay was because she had women golfers in front of her holding up play. (Yah, like thats never happens.) So, it was no fault of her own and the delay did not affect the entire field. Julie was playing well that day and was in the hunt for the lead.

Ya I know, still, rules are rules, she should have known, blah blah blah. Dude is still an overzealous dickhead.

Here's the article:

TV viewer busts Juli Inkster, gets her DQ'd from tournament
http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/de...rn=golf-264211
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:43 PM   #2
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What kind of professional sports organization allows viewers to call in and point out rules violations?

The LPGA should be ashamed of themselves for letting fans police the sport through tv.
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:51 PM   #3
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Rules are rules..
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:06 PM   #4
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What kind of professional sports organization allows viewers to call in and point out rules violations?

The LPGA should be ashamed of themselves for letting fans police the sport through tv.
In what other professional sport do fans get to make calls?

If the assigned officials miss the call, thats it. No violation.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:09 PM   #5
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In what other professional sport do fans get to make calls?

If the assigned officials miss the call, thats it. No violation.
That isn't how golf works. There isn't just a referee there calling fouls. You are supposed to call your own, but if you do not and it gets noticed then you will have to pay for it. In no other sport do players call their own fouls. Golf isn't basketball or baseball.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:09 PM   #6
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I actually didn't know that rule. You can't warm up with a weight or something? I know you can't hit another ball between your shots. Also, they let members play on the course during an LPGA tournament? That is messed up.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:15 PM   #7
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What kind of professional sports organization allows viewers to call in and point out rules violations?

The LPGA should be ashamed of themselves for letting fans police the sport through tv.
More importantly, what kind of man was watching the LPGA?
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:16 PM   #8
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That isn't how golf works. There isn't just a referee there calling fouls. You are supposed to call your own, but if you do not and it gets noticed then you will have to pay for it. In no other sport do players call their own fouls. Golf isn't basketball or baseball.
the honor system is a bitch.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:17 PM   #9
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That isn't how golf works. There isn't just a referee there calling fouls. You are supposed to call your own, but if you do not and it gets noticed then you will have to pay for it. In no other sport do players call their own fouls. Golf isn't basketball or baseball.
Pretty much what I said during the PGA "controversy". Rules are Rules, and a HOF veteran like Inkster should know this as well as anybody.
... and of course talk about a Man Card revocation, not only was the guy watching a LPGA event in a non-major, but he was paying enough attention to notice this?
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:28 PM   #10
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More importantly, what kind of man was watching the LPGA?
This guy, for one.

"Mrs. Craig…. I’m looking at you. You wore green so you can hide. I don’t blame you, you’re a TRAAAMP!"

LOL one of my all time favorite funny lines in movies. classic.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:41 PM   #11
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I wonder if this means I can call into Minnesota games and let officials know that McKinnie is holding all day in order to protect the old man???
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:49 PM   #12
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I wonder if this means I can call into Minnesota games and let officials know that McKinnie is holding all day in order to protect the old man???
Nicely done.

HA!
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:50 PM   #13
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What kind of professional sports organization allows viewers to call in and point out rules violations?

The LPGA should be ashamed of themselves for letting fans police the sport through tv.
This.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:01 PM   #14
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If you read the article, you'd see that this isn't the first time someone calling from home has spotted a rules infraction that has cost someone a tournament, or caused them to get DQ'd.

This isn't precedent setting by any means.

Anyone playing golf professionally (let alone someone who's been around as long as Inkster) HAS to know the rules, and has to be aware of the ramifications of breaking them.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:08 PM   #15
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The Guy that saw Juli Inkster warming up with a 'doughnut' on her club after a 30 minute delay. Dude see's this on TV and contacts the PGA and Julie ends up getting DQ'd

And before you 'Rules are Rules' people start chiming in, I offer you this:
The reason for the delay was because she had women golfers in front of her holding up play. (Yah, like thats never happens.) So, it was no fault of her own and the delay did not affect the entire field. Julie was playing well that day and was in the hunt for the lead.
I think a shot clock should be instituted into golf.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:13 PM   #16
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If you read the article, you'd see that this isn't the first time someone calling from home has spotted a rules infraction that has cost someone a tournament, or caused them to get DQ'd.

This isn't precedent setting by any means.

Anyone playing golf professionally (let alone someone who's been around as long as Inkster) HAS to know the rules, and has to be aware of the ramifications of breaking them.
This.

I love the ignorant fools in this thread comparing golf to football. As previously pointed out, Golf is NOT Football. Golf is a gentleman's (lady's) sport, in which players call themselves on violations, and apparently fans at home can do the same. These are professionals. It might be different if this were a school league or other amateur league...but these folks are professionals. They make a lot of money, and they are expected to be at the level of the game where they know all the rules...it's how to be a professional. Rules are indeed rules, and when the LPGA became aware of the infraction (by however means), they were right to act upon it.

When, oh when, will professional athletes and coaches learn to read rulebooks.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:18 PM   #17
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I think a shot clock should be instituted into golf.
There actually are time limits as to how long it can take between shots, depending on the circumstances - balls out of bounds, lost, etc. Players can and have lost strokes because of slow play, though usually warned 1st I believe.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:26 PM   #18
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This.

I love the ignorant fools in this thread comparing golf to football. As previously pointed out, Golf is NOT Football. Golf is a gentleman's (lady's) sport, in which players call themselves on violations, and apparently fans at home can do the same. These are professionals. It might be different if this were a school league or other amateur league...but these folks are professionals. They make a lot of money, and they are expected to be at the level of the game where they know all the rules...it's how to be a professional. Rules are indeed rules, and when the LPGA became aware of the infraction (by however means), they were right to act upon it.

When, oh when, will professional athletes and coaches learn to read rulebooks.
And football players are not professionals? They don 't make a lot of money? They are not expected to know the rules? You must do better than that.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:33 PM   #19
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And football players are not professionals? They don 't make a lot of money? They are not expected to know the rules? You must do better than that.
Do you even understand how golf works? You are on your own out there. There really isn't much of a gray area on what is a foul and what is not. It is pretty much that it either happened or it didn't. There aren't refs sitting their watching you. These aren't judgment calls. It isn't like someone made a really good play on you and forced you to ground your club in a bunker or illegally warm up between shots. Those things can happen in football or basketball. A d lineman makes a good move and you illegally hold, which is a penalty. You didn't do this because you didn't realize it was a rule. You did it because you got beat and didn't react properly. You don't draw a charge because you didn't realize that the defender had a right to his position. You did it because a guy got into good position quickly.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:51 PM   #20
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This.

I love the ignorant fools in this thread comparing golf to football. As previously pointed out, Golf is NOT Football. Golf is a gentleman's (lady's) sport, in which players call themselves on violations, and apparently fans at home can do the same. These are professionals. It might be different if this were a school league or other amateur league...but these folks are professionals. They make a lot of money, and they are expected to be at the level of the game where they know all the rules...it's how to be a professional. Rules are indeed rules, and when the LPGA became aware of the infraction (by however means), they were right to act upon it.

When, oh when, will professional athletes and coaches learn to read rulebooks.
Have you ever read the golf rulebook? Except for the PGA geeks that write the rule book and the nancy-man who called the infraction after seeing it on TV, nobody can know all the rules. I doubt that any pro knows every single minutia of this rule book. Hence, THERE ARE rules officials on the course, who do in fact invoke penalties when not reported by the player. And, the players themselves frequently call officials for clarifications and rulings because the rule book is so convoluted and full of ambiguous rules.

I guess my initial argument is... Why in the world, if you are fan, (for whatever reason,) watching tournament on TV, not want to see good competition? If I was Julie's opponent, and knew the rule, I would not call it her. Thats bunk, I would hate to win because of some stupid rule. Players get to warm up before playoffs when there is a tie, they should get to warm up after lengthy delays.
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