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Old 12-17-2009, 07:09 PM   #21
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The guy turned himself into a brand, dont tell he he's not about money.
Because he was great, and he could. I don't think he plays for that as he has ever since he 1st touched a club played for the Love of the Game, and to fulfill his lifelong dream to be the best golfer ever. Do you think worse of him because he also became a "presence" while doing it because of his looks and his greatness at the Game he loves?
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:11 PM   #22
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fuck tiger. great golfer if not the best ever but personally...fuck him.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:11 PM   #23
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I'm not surprised she would want the divorce...however, if the reports about the new pre-nup are true that she would receive an additional $50 million if she stuck with him for 2 years, it is a little surprising she is moving on the divorce already.

Good for her...although to be honest, I probably would've stuck it out for 2 years for $50 million. That's a lot of coin.
Isn't she already spending a lot of money...prior to the divorce? I thought I read she'd bought a Fantasy Island type place in Europe/Sweden. That's probably paid for outright, and that along with her pre-nup money, child support, and whatever else she can get out of the divorce should set her up pretty well I would think.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:11 PM   #24
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though maybe that was said too early, in fairness his foundation is pretty huge. i'll debate retracting my statement.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:15 PM   #25
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though maybe that was said too early, in fairness his foundation is pretty huge. i'll debate retracting my statement.
Much like our Bono thread, I think as much as people dislike him for his personality, you cannot overlook the many good works he has done w/ his money.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:16 PM   #26
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Because he was great, and he could. I don't think he plays for that as he has ever since he 1st touched a club played for the Love of the Game, and to fulfill his lifelong dream to be the best golfer ever. Do you think worse of him because he also became a "presence" while doing it because of his looks and his greatness at the Game he loves?
No but if he was just about golf he wouldnt be endorsing things like Razors and video games.

Tiger has established brands in other markets then golf. He's all about being a marketable commodity and cashing in on that.

Plus its overly apparent he wants everything he can get his hands on so Im sure there's a part of him thats highly driven by money. A guy with an ego like his needs to have the most of everything.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:17 PM   #27
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Much like our Bono thread, I think as much as people dislike him for his personality, you cannot overlook the many good works he has done w/ his money.
You have swayed me vegetarian man.

I fully retract my statement.

Carry forward men.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:19 PM   #28
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You have swayed me vegetarian man.

I fully retract my statement.

Carry forward men.
So great golfer, generous with with donations/foundation and a terrible husband.

2 out of 3.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:21 PM   #29
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You have swayed me vegetarian man.

I fully retract my statement.

Carry forward men.
No person is 100% good or bad. Tiger let his ego take over and betrayed his wife, but he's not the Devil.

He has earned the punishment and pain he is now feeling. Pain and anguish are pretty good teachers. Hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes and emerge a better person.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:22 PM   #30
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though maybe that was said too early, in fairness his foundation is pretty huge. i'll debate retracting my statement.
You and I both know its more of a tax write off then anything. It may do great things but there's a reason every pro athlete has a charity.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:22 PM   #31
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No but if he was just about golf he wouldnt be endorsing things like Razors and video games.

Tiger has established brands in other markets then golf. He's all about being a marketable commodity and cashing in on that.

Plus its overly apparent he wants everything he can get his hands on so Im sure there's a part of him thats highly driven by money. A guy with an ego like his needs to have the most of everything.
Would you say the same thing about Arnold Palmer who just about set the Standard for branding himself outside of golf?
Again, to buttress his life for when there will be no more golf (any of those knee problems he has had could have killed his career) and because he was lucky enough to be a "marketable commodity" I think he was just doing what came naturally w/ his success at Golf. I truly believe his overiding Goal for playing at this point, because of and/or that is driving his ego, is to be the best ever. If making a pile of money comes w/ that then so be it. I cannot hold that against him.
So as not the be an ashey/tJd; philava/phan52 kind of thing, we can just agree to disagree at this point.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:24 PM   #32
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No person is 100% good or bad. Tiger let his ego take over and betrayed his wife, but he's not the Devil.

He has earned the punishment and pain he is now feeling. Pain and anguish are pretty good teachers. Hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes and emerge a better person.
Totally agree w/ that. Tiger is Human - Who knew?
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:24 PM   #33
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So great golfer, generous with with donations/foundation and a terrible husband.

2 out of 3.
two out of three is a passing grade madame
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:25 PM   #34
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You and I both know its more of a tax write off then anything. It may do great things but there's a reason every pro athlete has a charity.
You give him no slack for wanting to do good things w/ all the money he has made? I think that is wrong.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #35
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two out of three is a passing grade madame
Correctomundo.

Better than me most days.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #36
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You and I both know its more of a tax write off then anything. It may do great things but there's a reason every pro athlete has a charity.
I think it is disingenuous to say more than anything else, it is a tax writeoff. That is obviously a huge thing, but you are saying he wouldn't do it if it weren't for the tax writeoffs. You don't know that.

And even if it is solely because of the tax writeoffs, does that make him a bad person? An intentional act that creates a lot of good, no matter the intent behind the action still equals good in my opinion.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #37
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So great golfer, generous with with donations/foundation and a terrible husband.

2 out of 3.
and depending on which mistress you listen to Shiancoe-esque
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #38
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two out of three is a passing grade madame
actually 2/3 at a lot of schools using a 7 point scale is not passing.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:28 PM   #39
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I think it is disingenuous to say more than anything else, it is a tax writeoff. That is obviously a huge thing, but you are saying he wouldn't do it if it weren't for the tax writeoffs. You don't know that.

And even if it is solely because of the tax writeoffs, does that make him a bad person? An intentional act that creates a lot of good, no matter the intent behind the action still equals good in my opinion.
I agree with this - plus if he really didn't want to do it he'd just say fuck it and pay the taxes.

Don't quote me on this, but I believe most of the compensation my company gave him was to his foundation.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:31 PM   #40
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actually 2/3 at a lot of schools using a 7 point scale is not passing.
wtf is a 7 point scale? above 65% i think at our HS was passing. But it's been ten years...fuck me i'm old
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