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Old 08-15-2012, 12:43 AM   #1
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Default Youtube videos ever hurt your game?
I imagine there are many of you out there that spend a fair amount of time always trying to perfect your swing and watch all the different online instructors (SC, DW, etc...). Do any of you seemingly get worse the more you watch those videos? (Obviously I realize the problem is tinkering with your swing)

My problem has been these online instructors preach easy, effortless swings, and using your body to turn the clubhead over etc...The result has been me firing my lower body, my upperbody remains smooth yet lagging behind, and I'm pushing (no...slicing) everything for the last month because I'm coming through impact with an open face because I'm all I keep seeing is smooth effortless swing. When I stop trying that and actually put a little upperbody into it, I stopping swaying during the downswing and magically the clubhead closes. I seriously play better when I am busy with work and just show up and play. More time at the range = trying more things = terrible golf.

Anyone else play better when they just play instead of devoting every waking second to trying to improve? I hate that I love this frustrating sport
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:45 AM   #2
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I think you would be better off picking one online instructor, and building a swing that way. Taking ideas from everybody seems like it could lead to problems.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:45 AM   #3
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It's a pretty fine line when you get into the videos. As you said - tinkering can be a slippery slope. I try to be careful what I take away from them and certainly don't watch as many as I used to. Some of the mechanics just don't work the same for all swing types. I do like the videos with particular practice drills to help different aspects of the short game.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:46 AM   #4
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I imagine there are many of you out there that spend a fair amount of time always trying to perfect your swing and watch all the different online instructors (SC, DW, etc...). Do any of you seemingly get worse the more you watch those videos? (Obviously I realize the problem is tinkering with your swing)

My problem has been these online instructors preach easy, effortless swings, and using your body to turn the clubhead over etc...The result has been me firing my lower body, my upperbody remains smooth yet lagging behind, and I'm pushing (no...slicing) everything for the last month because I'm coming through impact with an open face because I'm all I keep seeing is smooth effortless swing. When I stop trying that and actually put a little upperbody into it, I stopping swaying during the downswing and magically the clubhead closes. I seriously play better when I am busy with work and just show up and play. More time at the range = trying more things = terrible golf.

Anyone else play better when they just play instead of devoting every waking second to trying to improve? I hate that I love this frustrating sport
i look at most youtube stuff just like i look at golf magazine hints and tips they might help you but they also could really hurt your game. i like to watch and read to learn but more often than not i won't put them into my game unless my instructor says they will help. i mean i have gone to him with stuff that i thought sounded great and he showed me exactly why it would hurt my game. and im glad i didn't go practice it for a week before talking to him.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:47 AM   #5
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It's interesting what someone else's advice can do to your game- my golf pro always tells me that he likes people watching online videos because it makes more business for him haha, the thing about so many online instructors is that some advice contradicts what others say it's crazy how my swing has worsened because of this but the only two inline video instructors that help me are Mark Crossfield and ol Herman Williams-next time I'm in town I'd love to get a real lesson from williams
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:48 AM   #6
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It's a pretty fine line when you get into the videos. As you said - tinkering can be a slippery slope. I try to be careful what I take away from them and certainly don't watch as many as I used to. Some of the mechanics just don't work the same for all swing types. I do like the videos with particular practice drills to help different aspects of the short game.
I think this is some sound advice. I like sticking to just one or two instructors and practing their drills
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:53 AM   #7
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I am the same way. The only time I go to the range is to warm up before a round or to fix something that creeped up during the last round. I NEVER look for instruction. I can usually correct the problem on my own given enough time. My suggestion if you are this way is if you have time you want to spend practicing, spend it on and around the putting/chipping green. You can never work hard enough there.

Quick story: My dad quit golf because it got too frustrating to him. He played for 12 years while I was growing up and never shot better than high 80's. He would spend 2 days out in the back yard with the newest issue of Golf Digest to "fix his swing". This happened almost every month. Too much going on in the head to play golf.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:00 AM   #8
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For the most part I stay away from reading/watching too much about the swing unless I'm looking for something specific.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:09 AM   #9
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The issue is that EVERYONE has faults in their swings. The players with better swings/game are the players that have the (i) right combination of compensations to overcome those faults and (ii) compensations that are fairly consistent in nature. When we start watching a bunch of videos and tips from various different sources, we often will start tinkering with a "movement" that otherwise was a compensation for a fault. It isn't until we start to develop other new compensations for the new movements (or go back to the original faults and compensations) that we start piecing the swing back together.

I am begining to embrace my compensations for what they are... AWESOMENESS that, at very least, lets me hack it around the course without too much displeasure.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:10 AM   #10
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I only want my instruction for the most part from a real live person standing right beside me.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:07 AM   #11
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YouTube hasn't ever screwed me up like going to see a live teacher.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:35 AM   #12
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YouTube hasn't ever screwed me up like going to see a live teacher.
Unfortunately there are some REALLY crappy teachers out there. I went through about 3 of them before finding one that I felt was decent.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:39 AM   #13
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My swing coach yelled at me last time I watched Youtube instruction videos. However, I do model after this swing....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZslbL...ure=plpp_video
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:52 AM   #14
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I watch some of this guys videos for specific things Im struggling with. He has a video about everything.

http://www.youtube.com/user/clemshaw
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:44 AM   #15
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I watch some of this guys videos for specific things Im struggling with. He has a video about everything.

http://www.youtube.com/user/clemshaw
That's interesting Kmac cause I've never been on the same wavelength as him. I do however really like this:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PeakPerformanceGolf
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:18 PM   #16
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You guys are right in that there are so many different versions of how to do the same thing. Lately I've been pushing everything, so I need to correct that. I'm somewhat tall (6'2") with a pretty steep swing so a draw is something of a pipe dream for me. Here are the various ways to hit a draw from online videos: 1) Aim right, close club face, 2) flatten swing plane and bow right wrist, 3) Actively turn over your wrist before impact, etc..And then I see real world discrepancies as one of my playing partners is a mid single cap and can work the ball like nobody's business. He's about 5'9, has a steep swing, and has an extremely weak grip lol.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:39 AM   #17
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I was having the same problem. I fixed it when I put my iPad down and put both hands back on the club. Just kidding.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:58 PM   #18
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The best help I have ever had was when I was trying to tweak a new driver and was on a monitor at a golfsmith in Duluth, GA. I kept changing settings and was having a hell of a time hitting a consistent drive. A Golftec employee walks up and tells me to move back a bit and all of a sudden, my issues go away and I am as consistent as ever. My swing speed went through the roof and my weak fades became nice hard draws.

To me, that shows that a live pro can always pick one thing out that will fix 90% of what ails you.
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